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Pillar of the Community
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If it weren't for the wear on the word Liberty, I would say the obverse is a 20. Reverse seems like about a 15. So overall, F15.
Prediction: the slab says 25. =P
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Pillar of the Community
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Old school it is a VG-10. I think it makes F-12 with today's grading.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It's awfully close to Fine using the grading guides I find on the internet, but I can't see a coin like this grading Fine with barely more than 2 letters of Liberty showing. Bottom line - when you look at it, it just doesn't look "Fine".
Edited by Coinfrog 09/20/2023 6:18 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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F12
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
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NIce coin, nice pics. Minor scratches are typical for the grade, which I'd put at F12.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Almost all the ones I see have weakness in the obverse shield, even into mid VF range; so I am sticking at VG10-F12 based on the rest of the coin, particularly the feathers, hair and drapery
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Pillar of the Community
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PCGS graded this one F-15. I did not end up purchasing.
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Pillar of the Community
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7631 Posts |
"Friday" coin!
Thx for posting!
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Bedrock of the Community
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94367 Posts |
Just have to ask fans of PCGS - does this really look like a Fine coin to you?
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Pillar of the Community
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6396 Posts |
This coin has lots of inner detail on both sides, rims are strong and all denticles are visible. Eye appeal is excellent. I have no problem with the Fine-15 grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Just have to ask fans of PCGS - does this really look like a Fine coin to you? Yes (although I'm no acolyte of PCGS). My first impression was actually VF20 due to the excellent reverse, the detailed head & gown folds, the sharp denticles and the great eye appeal. Then I knocked it down two levels for the obverse shield. The obv shield letters may be the easiest feature to appraise, but there's much more to the coin than that . These are the Photograde F12 pics. The OP's coin is much better. I would have said F12, but F15 is surely fair.  
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Bedrock of the Community
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i have to agree with you pristine2 after a second look. solid F15 with a good shot at VF
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Bedrock of the Community
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12057 Posts |
One difference between the people who post grade opinions here and the people who grade coins for a living at TPG's is that TPG graders are getting paid for their opinions and we are not; but they're still opinions, just the same.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Bedrock of the Community
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and i'll add to paralyse comment on TPG graders that they have the coin in hand and are looking at photos to grade from. although these photos are better than we normally see. also keep in mind that TPG's are taking in consideration what they feel a coin would sell for also. there are a lot of little nuances to their grading including protecting their top pops as well. many reasons why I don't slab
Edited by panzaldi 09/22/2023 1:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmm I have a 73cc half I need graded on Friday
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