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Your Thoughts On This 1888 Seated Quarter Requested.

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 Posted 10/30/2023  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
These things I all Know. I also know when I say counterfeit, I'll get a refund. Please evaluate what you see.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Date digits are mis-shaped and denticles don't look right. That curved line through the reverse denticles from 2:00 to 4:00 isn't normal. Liberty's face isn't clear in the photo but her nose doesn't match any real Seated quarter I've seen.

The price was way too low for a genuine coin and the photos confirm counterfeit status, IMO.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I say genuine mishandled proof.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add apcol258 to your friends list
It's always disappointing to see the quick assumptions that a coin is fake based on a low price, no return policy or low feedback. It really shows how little some collectors actually look at the coin in question before jumping to a conclusion. I agree with frog that this could be an impaired proof. Well worth the risk to be able to assess it in hand.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
Yeah, first impressions were an impaired proof to my eyes also; coin does not seem to have anything jump out saying counterfeit or altered save for what others mentioned...
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 Posted 10/30/2023  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Send it for grading, you can't lose.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
This is either a modern counterfeit, or stolen images of a real coin. Based on the quality of the coin, I'm leaning towards the former.

Account of seller has been inactive for many years, at least 5+. Almost certainly a compromised/hacked account.
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 Posted 10/31/2023  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i say post in-hand photos to get a better look at her.
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 Posted 10/31/2023  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
Shipped today from where it's supposed to be shipped from (Massachusetts). We'll see what happens. I say why bother hacking an account and selling an item for $65 but hey, that's me.
As to an ebay account laying dormant for years, My own account that I've had since May 1999 has laid dormant for several years just due to lack of necessity and a busy work life. When I needed to sell on ebay, I had a no return policy as I wanted the stuff out of my house and not to be handling the same item several times.
And for the "too cheap" comments, apparently you haven't seen this
http://goccf.com/t/313048

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 Posted 10/31/2023  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is, but there are always exceptions. Sometimes you get lucky.

Worst-case scenario, you're out $65 and learn something in the process.

On the other hand, perhaps you really have won the coin lottery here and managed to snag a $500-$1000+ coin for $65, in which case, I'll be as excited as you are!

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 Posted 10/31/2023  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list

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Worst-case scenario, you're out $65 and learn something in the process.

I've never lost any money on counterfeit coins off ebay. If seller doesn't fix it, ebay does. Happened 3 times, once on a single coin listing, and twice in bulk lots in a dozen years or so of buying coins off ebay. I've made far more money on the "too good to be true" listings than the $4.00 I ever lost on ebay years ago (on return shipping when a kid was using their parents account and sent me somebody elses order)
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 Posted 10/31/2023  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Put me in for impaired proof! I've scored with ebay countless times, I have hope it is good. Congrats on the buy!
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 Posted 11/04/2023  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Lots of red flags but photos are too small to say for sure.
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 Posted Today  26M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
I've had this laying in a box labeled as "probably counterfeit" since then (didn't really look silver to me) . Since we have a new "bullion" shop in our small town..and I saved them about $800 this past Saturday, they said they'd check some questionable coins for me on their Sigma. (as it was the only one that tested as not silver was one that I won here on the forum). He seemed to think that it was real (proof) and we negotiated between sending it to PCGS, taking it to a show in January and getting it graded, or buying outright as is. I offered it to him for $250 as is...and he took me up on it. He offered to give me more if it comes back real. I told him not to worry about it...I made money on it.
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