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Red Meat For Grading - 1864 Two Cent Piece

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 Posted 12/05/2023  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list
Terrible pic. Impossible to tell much.
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 Posted 12/05/2023  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
AU-details (cleaned). If this is the seller that I think it is based on the pictures, most of the coins that they sell are cleaned.
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 Posted 12/05/2023  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
post your in-hand photos when you get it. curious to see the surfaces
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 Posted 12/05/2023  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
I appreciate all the wonderful replies! Now I am excited to see it. I'll do my best to post some better pictures when II have it in hand. Might even try to make one of those white glove video shorts to show the luster if it has it.
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 Posted 12/11/2023  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Here is a video
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 Posted 12/11/2023  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You forgot the white gloves! Video not too helpful, at least to me. Looks cleaned.
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 Posted 12/11/2023  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Seeing some luster but no real cartwheel. Can't tell if it has been cleaned or not.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
AU details (cleaned) it appears that all or most of the luster has been removed.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Unc Cleaned. You are handling the coin correctly.
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 Posted 12/12/2023  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
In your video, you take the coin and turn it and it seems to have medallic orientation. It should have coin orientation. Unless this is a very severe rotated die, this is not as it should be and makes the coin a little suspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin_orientation
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 Posted 12/12/2023  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Possibly ex-jewelry? I see some serious notches in the rim and edge.
Edit: @ns, there are some ~180 degree rotated dies on Heritage, like this one https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/186...ption-071515 but good point.
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AU details whizzed
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This is a details coin. I would send it back. Just one man's opinion.
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 Posted 12/13/2023  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
After viewing the video in full screen mode I have to agree that the coin appears to be AU details- polished or whizzed.
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 Posted 12/13/2023  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
Without a doubt cleaned coin.

Hard pass & don't bother buying from that seller anymore.

These people are a serious contagion in our hobby, purposely cleaning these Coins and ruining them.

The ignorant buyers only further enable their terrible business practices.
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