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Pillar of the Community
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I can't see the strike weakness that some have noted. Ear looks fully formed and wheat/cotton features show up nicely. The eagle's breast feathers, talons and legs show decent detail. Wings look good all the way to the rims and wreaths have nice detail. I'd appreciate more info for my benefit as well.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Bedrock of the Community
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Amazed that anyone would offer an opinion from these pics.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Amazed that anyone would offer an opinion from these pics. Sometimes when you are throwing out lowball bids on auctions - gambling, or trying to get lucky - you don't have much to go by, so you just use your best judgment along with a healthy margin of error. These are far from the worst pictures I've seen, although they are very dark -- I'll try to clean them up for OP later in Photoshop. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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One thing I can see in the photos is the fields do have a lot of chatter, but the coin looks MS.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll say MS-62.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll tossout a MS64 based on the images provided. Minimal contact marks, good strike and eye appeal. Can't read the luster but at least 63 unless the images hide problems.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Edited by Coinfrog
01/13/2024 05:20 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Sorry for the poor photos and the delay of new photos, I hope these are better. On my first post I added 2 photos where I dropped light in the middle of the coin to expose the fields, those photos got deleted. I feel those would help with the PL designation. I don't want to be disrespectful and add those back unless I'm told it is okay to do so. The holder has a lot of scuff on the obverse side. Mostly from the front of the forehead through the back of the cap area, to the top of the coin. I changed the setting quite a bit to hopefully brighten up the photo, lighting has been a real challenge with my new equipment.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I could see 62-63PL. DMPL is going to depend on depth of fields - if it were in a modern PCGS or NGC DMPL holder, I'd put a little more faith in that designation.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
01/13/2024 08:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Your latest angled photo shows a little more chatter on the cheek. It still appears to have PL fields, but I would probably drop to 63 based on these photos. Still a very nice '81-O.
"Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It looks 62PL based on the fields but has an extremely clean cheek. It is very rare that all the chatter is in the fields and none appears in the cheek which is higher. If you think about what the odds are that a coin rolls around in a 1,000 coin bag and experiences hits only in the fields, it would be pretty low. In that sense it is pretty special. This dynamic is maybe more likely in a proof coin, but looking at the denticles, this coin does not look proof. Nice looking coin though.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
01/13/2024 11:57 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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new photos. still at MS62PL
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I did not realize this was slabbed when I first posted but remain at 63. Any mark gets magnified by the mirrors on the fields resulting in
them looking larger when photographed. Mirrors look good but as others have said gold PCI slabs tend to be too generous.
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Posted 01/12/2024 5:39 pm
