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Pillar of the Community
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Nice thumb...no hits on the devices...clean/clear open fields...nice defined feathers on left leg and chest. MS-65 Beauty! smat
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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To me, pics are too dark to see surface details clearly.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll shoot a few with better lighting for you tonight, Coinfrog, and update the post. The "darkness" you describe is an artifact caused by the thickness of the NGC insert holder, being about twice as thick as a modern holder.
The coin is not flush with the surface of the insert but is sunk down a bit into the insert, leaving an air gap on top between the coin and the holder; making things more difficult is the fact that it's not perfectly parallel, and is slightly angled in the insert (with the top angled down and the bottom angled a bit up.)
The end result is that the edges of the recessed insert around the coin cast shadows on it when photographing it from any angle except directly above. I can shoot it with much stronger lighting which will greatly enhance the detail at the expense of luster.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Edited by paralyse 03/08/2024 11:37 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'll say MS65 as well. I have a 1901 dime in a similar NGC slab tilted like that in the holder and it's very difficult to photograph.
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Bedrock of the Community
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lots of shadows on the obv photos. the reverse I have at MS66. worst case...the obv is MS65. I'm going to give it an MS66 grade baring new obv photos
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Bedrock of the Community
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Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Bedrock of the Community
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Much better photos. But will all the tics on the leg I'm still at MS-65.
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Bedrock of the Community
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with all the obv marks I think NGC called it MS65
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Bedrock of the Community
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Here's what NGC said back in the day. Price paid: $33 (2017) 
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
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Very Nice. Just a thought: Send it to CAC and see if it receives a gold bean. A classic gold embossed NGC slab with a CAC gold bean would make for a nice combination and would certainly enhance its value and liquidity.
Edited by Everest 03/10/2024 09:20 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think it's a green bean candidate (if not gold bean) but I am not a CAC member (and not a dealer.) The last actual coin dealer near me closed up and went Internet-only. There's one about an hour west of here, and none anywhere closer unless I drive 4 hours south.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Bedrock of the Community
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although there is chatter on the left leg, I don't think its enough to grade this coin any less than 64 plus the luster is quite nice on it. it is bean worthy which may be better than a resub returned at 64
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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