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How To Flatten Old Bills? Need More Than A Book. Eye Appeal Is My Priority.

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 Posted 04/08/2024  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I have a collection of 1914 and 1928 bills that were crumpled into balls by a malicious ex.


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At least the ex didn't take a pair of scissors or a magic marker to them! I've heard horror stories the past 50 years!


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If they were mine I'd try a "do-it-yourself" approach before sending stuff off for "conservation". Here's what I'd try...
Looks like a solid plan. Certainly test the procedure on some spendable notes first.
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 Posted 04/08/2024  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
I'm not sure of the correct terminology but when you get a hard fold on bond paper, it breaks the fibers or something like that. You'll certainly improve the eye appeal with the above suggestions but when the notes are examined with side lighting, you'll still be able to detect the folds.
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 Posted 04/08/2024  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MaxVCad to your friends list
I'm happy to report, I seemed to have flattened all the bills quite effectively & without causing further damage! See the image at the bottom of this post.

I used an iron on low heat with filtered water steam. I was too afraid to actually soak the bills, but I'm not sure it could've turned out much better. Maybe soaking them would get some of the super-deep wrinkles out, but I was afraid it would come at the cost of rips due to fibers being too relaxed.

The (possibly overly-descriptive) instructions for what I did:

- Place a cotton hand towel on top of the ironing board.
- Place a bill on the cotton towel. Make sure all folds are facing the correct direction / aligned.
- Spray both sides of the bill pretty heavily with steam from about a 1" distance (hovering), until the bill feels damp to the touch on both sides.
- Place another cotton towel on top of the damp bill and iron through that top cotton towel.
- Try to make sure the cotton towels didn't move during the ironing process.
- Iron with firm pressure and move the iron very minimally in a tight circular motion. Try to mentally picture where the bill has wrinkles / folds and push those wrinkles / folds outwards towards the nearest edge.. Like normal ironing.
- Have the iron on the dry setting, but for deeply wrinkled bills spray steam as-needed during this step of the ironing.
- Flip the bill halfway, replace the top towel and repeat to the other side.
- Once 90% of the water is out of the bill, remove the top towel and place the iron directly on the bill with light - medium pressure.
- Don't spray any steam when ironing the bill directly, make sure your iron is on the dry setting. The goal is to dry out the bill flat, without it curling in either direction.
- Flip the bill, do this to the other side but just where the bill is curling. Do this until the bill is no longer curling in either direction / in a flat equilibrium state.
- Have a book ready, quickly place the bill in between book pages and sit / stand on the book for 15-20 seconds while the bill finishes the drying and cooling process.

Thanks for your input westernsky & SteveInTampa. :-)

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 Posted 04/08/2024  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikev50 to your friends list
looks pretty good---
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 Posted 04/08/2024  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
They certainly look better than they did! Good outcome for sure!

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 Posted 04/08/2024  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
That $500 (not shown in the originial lot) is clearly the winner here.
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 Posted 04/09/2024  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
Terrific results. Thanks for sharing
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The sun, moon and earth sure lined up for you today!

Indeed
Steve, doesn't using an iron flatten out the embossing? Do older notes even have embossing?
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Doesn't using an iron flatten out the embossing? Do older notes even have embossing ?

Yes, and yes.
I believe the OP's main concern was eye appeal and not original paper quality.
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 Posted 04/09/2024  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
So, to sum it up,those notes would come back as details graded?
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So, to sum it up,those notes would come back as details graded?

I don't believe so: if they were certified, they'd come back without the EPQ (like the majority of notes from that era).
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 Posted 04/09/2024  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I'm happy to report, I seemed to have flattened all the bills quite effectively & without causing further damage!
Looking good!
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 Posted 04/10/2024  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MaxVCad to your friends list
I ended up gathering the courage to do a warm water soak and the two bills I've done it on so far seem to have come out even nicer.. I just put some filtered water on a plate and waited 30 minutes or so until all the fibers are soaked through.. I was too anxious to wait the suggested 2 hours, maybe that would have given even better results.
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 Posted 04/11/2024  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Well I'm glad you are getting the notes back into shape again. Look forward to see any improvement after the soaking.
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 Posted 04/11/2024  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
We'd love to see some pics!
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