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Spelling Mistake On Republic Of China Silver Coin ?

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 Posted 07/15/2024  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list
The mushy strike and 'applied dirt' are obvious giveaways
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 Posted 07/15/2024  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
The are frequent spelling mistakes in English on Chinese coins of the period, including oe instead of the of.
I think the first coin is trying to look like the 1912 dollar.
Try running a magnet over them. Often, but not always, fakes are magnet.
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 Posted 07/15/2024  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list
As others have pointed out, these are fake as the day is long, and almost certainly contain no silver content whatsoever.
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 Posted 07/15/2024  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Must agree.



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 Posted 07/15/2024  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Here's a link to a real one:
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...66&lot=37135
Compare the lettering and the details on the leaves.
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 Posted 07/15/2024  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list
Chemically applied tarnishing - check.
Mushy appearance - check.
Coin type known for being extensively faked - check.

As the old saying goes, if it looks like a duck...
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Check the weight. Fakes are usually several grams lightweight.
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 Posted 07/16/2024  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I agree. They're fake.
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Tested it over a magnet and they both aren't magnetic
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 Posted 07/17/2024  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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Is there something that gives away that they are replicas?


There are a thousand tiny details that are all, simply, wrong. Here's a few for the first coin:
- the English-language text is... wobbly. Not only is every letter slightly the wrong shape, but duplicate letters are wrong in different ways (the original design would have been made with letter-punches so this should not happen) and the letters when put together don't match up in size or style.
- the floral patterns on both sides are effectively line-drawing outlines of plants, rather than solid 3-D plants.
- the circles of dots on both sides are meandering around and don't seem to be trying very hard to stay in a circle.

The net effect of the entire coin is as if someone took an original coin and hand-carved away at the entire design until practically all the original design was replaced with the hand-carvings. Which is probably more or less exactly what happened: a fake coin die wore out, so the details on the die were re-engraved by hand and more fake coins made. Repeat this a few times, and a coin like this is the result.

The second coin is even worse. I'm not sure if it's a made-up design or if it's copying a rare pattern coin, but they appear to have taken a very rough drawing of the coin, and then made this coin based off of that drawing. The dragons on both sides look very worm-like, and quite un-majestic. The "patina" is also very, very fake here - it looks like it was smeared on, then bits of it were wiped off. Which is probably a more or less accurate description of how it was put there.
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 Posted 07/22/2024  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
You might want to check the diameter and thickness as well. Make sure they match up. 2nd coin I wouldn't spend any time on at all. That's a super obvious fake as everyone has mentioned.
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