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Memorial Pennys A Failure.

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 Posted 05/15/2009  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
to the Community!

I share you feeling about the "Zincoln" Cent in that they just do not hold up like the old bronze version.

However, I agree with Numismo, it is a little too late. I feel that the one cent coin will probably cease production before it will change composition.
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 Posted 05/15/2009  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
The mint must already know about the horrible rate of attrition with pennies Cents . People don't even pick them up. They just kick them in drains and throw them in the garbage these days.

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 Posted 05/15/2009  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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...we would like a more resistant component in their making.I know copper is too costly to consider it's return, I was told that maybe reinforced aluminum
The current composition was a big mistake that simply will not endure the decades like the bronze cents, especially in environmental conditions as you describe. I think an aluminum-bronze composition would be a good compromise, although it won't have the "traditional" copper color. But the days of bronze coinage are over, after all.

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 Posted 05/15/2009  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
Look at it this way..

After the mass melting of the bronze cents which will occur and the zinc cents getting the same treatment (melting or rotting)... the high quality examples are going to be prized.

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 Posted 05/15/2009  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
I agree the zinc composition is garbage. But I also agree that they will probably stop production of circulating cents (if you can call them that) rather than trying a new composition. Some of the boxes I've gotten at the bank lately have been unbelievably cruddy and corroded.
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 Posted 05/15/2009  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Welcome to CC!

I for one am glad we are losing mass numbers to attrition. Hopefully, someday, my ultra-high grade Memorial collection will be appreciated for what it is.
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BadThad, your ultra-high grade Memorial collection is already appreciated for what it is... an incredible work of art!
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 Posted 05/15/2009  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elimist to your friends list
I always think its funny whenever this topic is brought up (and its been brought up countless times before) that some people seem to take the composistion of the cent personally. There are billions of cents minted every year so there are plenty to go around. Just because the new composition (new meaning 27 years old) doesn't compare with the old composistion some people think thats some sort of horrible crime. Its a cent! Half of the people on this forum want the mint to stop making them anyways. Its not like having cents that erode away when burried underground or dropped at the beach is some sort of abomination. If I was burried underground for five years before being dug up again I would probably be pretty moldy to. Heck, mistreat anything, let alone a tiny little coin, and its going to degrade somehow.

Why is it so bad that our cents are made to serve the practical purpose of being a cent?
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always think its funny whenever this topic is brought up (and its been brought up countless times before) that some people seem to take the composistion of the cent personally.
In case it wasn't noticed Lizard Prince is a new member and this was his first post! I doubt he read through all the other posts in this forum before starting this one. As for the rest of us, we are entitled to our opinions as we are all Americans living in the land of Freedom of Speech! lizard Prince
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 Posted 05/16/2009  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
Welcome, Lizard Prince!

There are a bunch of other threads on this forum about the excitement
surrounding the 2009 Log Cabin Cents. Some think that saving BU 2009
Cents is like saving BU State Quarters ('pointless', 'they'll only be
worth face value'), but I would beg to differ.

The reason why: Zinc Cents hold up poorly in circulation, never mind
in the ground! I've already found two Log Cabin Cents that were down
to AU condition, just from a month or two of circulation.
I was carrying a 2009 (P) Log Cabin Cent in my pocket, and it
developed spotting in just a month. And it was in a vinyl flip the
whole time!

The Mint had the right idea with the 1974 Aluminum Cent, and not just for 'durability'.
Small children and dogs have been poisoned by swallowing Zinc Cents.
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 Posted 05/16/2009  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list
It has been said that a Plastic Water Bottle would last FOREVER in a landfill. Maybe the US Mint should start making one cent coins out of plastic!
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 Posted 05/16/2009  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
I had the same idea! A plastic cent! Would last longer than Zinc. Unfortunately I don't think it would work and wouldn't do much for the metal detector enthusiasts.
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 Posted 05/16/2009  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lizard Prince to your friends list
Thanks ratman for defending my newbie status and I apologize for any missconception in my post.I see.. there was others that beat my punch line hmmm...about plastic cents I don't mind plastic mixed in with let's say aluminum.Or plastic coat them that way I can find them.So DNA poisoned people by a zinc Wow! That means more reason to have this dumb mixure eradicated.Finding this Log cabin cent design made me curious to save one.I once sold in a coin shop in Plaza las America shopping center a 1972 double die for $40 if the last dummy who had the coin hadn't mutilated the cent with a hole I would have got $60 and new uncirculated $200.00 I sold it in a time of great need after that I got the need to seek and inspect all 1972 cents.
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 Posted 05/17/2009  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list
I think the worst thing about these zincs is that they seem to contaminate all the coins they make contacts with. I have never seen so much corrosion of dimes, nickles and all the rest- especially the wheaties- since zincs came out. These zincs are corroding them all!
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 Posted 05/17/2009  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list
It may take a certain number of zinc Cents swallowed before the dog or
child becomes ill (the size of the dog or child also factors here), but
I'm sure any pediatrician or veterinarian who's practiced for any
length of time could tell you about the effects of zinc Cents.

Plastic would be all to easy to counterfeit! For the 1974 Aluminum
Cent, a small percentage of base metals were added (for strength),
which would also make it easier to detect counterfeits.

I'd choose copper-plated aluminum for the Cent, myself!
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05/17/2009 6:38 pm
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