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Bedrock of the Community
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Not sure how you make putty shine like gold but maybe there's shiny gold putty that I don't know about.  For the putty to work, you would have to match the color, reflectivity and luster of the coin. Seems like a tough task. Filling fine hairlines seems reasonable to conceal but not large areas in the surfaces. Was able to see some examples of coins that have been puttied extensively but they didn't look too convincing. Maybe they looked better when first applied. For coins of this value, it was probably looked at by more than one grader for more than 5 seconds, so not sure if a putty fix would have been missed. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
05/11/2025 4:47 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Was able to see some examples of coins that have been puttied extensively but they didn't look too convincing. Maybe they looked better when first applied. When the putty is first applied, it can pass through TPG graders on MS gold coins. There was one example that went through PCGS and CAC before the putty turned lighter. Over time it will dry out and turn to a lighter color. If you are buying gold coins, something to be aware of. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Still unconvinced that putty can mimic the look of lustrous gold over any substantial surface. I think what you are seeing in the reverse of this coin is the result of poor in-slab photography.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
05/11/2025 6:49 pm
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I say it is a beautiful key date coin NS - and would make a welcome addition to your already world-class collection of rarities and excellent numismatic examples.  Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.artEdited by nickelsearcher
05/11/2025 7:01 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 However, if you have any doubts, hold out, there will always be another one. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very nice coin. Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like Greysheet Bid is $60k so the price does seem attractive and more inline with a 63. The putty possibility is plausible and the lack of a CAC sticker means it likely didn't pass for some reason. At this level a CAC green sticker adds nearly $20k in value to this piece.
I'd want to see high-res images of both surfaces and/or a return privilege before ponying up that kind of cash. Assuming you like the eye appeal then it's a worthwhile purchase.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The matte finish looks good.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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United States
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Way, way over my head and out of my league!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I ran the cert number thru PCGS Cert Verification and it comes back as an error meaning not showing up. I was looking to see if PCGS had a photo to see this coin in a different light but could not find it. I starting running the slab cert and realized this coin was graded in Europe and not in the US. https://www.pcgseurope.com/Cert/5484347Was hoping to find a listing such as an auction to see what this looked like but came back empty handed. So in the end it is a great price if it is a great coin. The rest is up to you. Edited by cointagous
05/12/2025 12:25 pm
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I ran the cert number thru PCGS Cert Verification and it comes back as an error meaning not showing up. I was looking to see if PCGS had a photo to see this coin in a different light but could not find it. I starting running the slab cert and realized this coin was graded in Europe and not in the US. I just ran the certification number through PCGS and it showed up. Maybe a temporary snafu it has happened before when I have checked certification numbers. Impossible to have been graded in Europe as the slab (1998-2002 ) predates the opening of the PCGS grading site in Paris of May 2010. Edited by Everest
05/12/2025 1:53 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You would be correct Everest as the holder generation so I have no idea why it did not work. Was hoping for a tru-view or similar but found nothing.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The coin sold this week before I had a chance to get out to see it in person. Seems like the buyer got a good deal.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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The coin sold this week before I had a chance to get out to see it in person. Bummer.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Missing this one was good since you could not view it in-person. There will be other opportunities.
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