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1919 S L B Quarter - Full Head?

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 Posted 05/31/2025  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo soldat to your friends list
Thanks for all the feedback. I don't feel hard done by. This was in amongst several ounces of mostly Commonwealth (UK, Australia, SAF) silver that I got for a little more than spot. There were some other nice pieces, but this was the cherry.
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 Posted 09/07/2025  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add believer to your friends list
I have collected SLQs for 30 years and have some of the finest and many high end FHs.
PCGC, NGC, ANACS. Also WLH high end high keys. Yours could easily get FH certification as well as not and yet I've seen some very questionable one with FH from these jerks and even with the green CAC sticker.
I just don't know the key to it you may submit several times and finally get that final grader okaying it FH.
I had such disapointments withregrades where they return the coin with a lower grade(PCGS). When this number system started it was because of many dealers sellling in tyhe coin news ormagazines were not truly up front( as all of them SHOULD BE)
So these gimmicks rose and guaranteed the grade and authenticity. Well it's gone way too far sometimes the arrogance and almost disdin when sending back a graded coin is palpable.
Bottom line Try one of the 3rd party services and if you don't like whst you get resbmit, you may get lucky.By the way the coin head isn't ultimate but it's very close may be worth the try if it is not cleaned and UNC.
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 Posted 09/07/2025  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RWC112 to your friends list
I collect these SLQ's and new to them so this post is very helpful to me I think finding some SLQ in this condition is hard as I've not even seen one as of yet.
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 Posted 09/07/2025  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Like the Buffalo nickel, the SLQ is tough to grade. The phrase "full head" is a bit of a misnomer, because what people are really seeking is a coin that is more fully struck than average. Standing Liberty quarters are difficult coins to grade because of multiple design changes and variable strike quality (especially the branch mint coins), die wear, and die clash polishing significantly affecting the appearance of the coin. This is especially noticeable on mid and lower grade coins.

Your coin does not have a partially abraded shield (caused by aggressive die clash polishing), but many coins with abraded shields also have partially abraded heads from the same polishing. In those cases, a "full head" designation sometimes is given to a head that lacks some of the detail. That causes confusion over the standards, but correctly addresses the impact of die polishing on appearance, since the underlying strike quality is still sharp.

That said, on your coin, the typically abraded areas are intact, and what you see with design flatness in the head is strike quality. Your coin is a nice one, but wouldn't meet the "full head" designation for more fully struck coins. Very nice coin, though!
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 Posted 09/16/2025  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo soldat to your friends list
Thanks, believer and FC. Always good to hear other impressions and advice on grading. I've yet to submit any coins to any TPGs. This would probably be a candidate just out of curiosity.
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 Posted 09/16/2025  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list
MisterT thanks for that link. I wasn't fully aware of what exactly a FH was, and I'm an avid collector of SL quarters.
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 Posted 10/03/2025  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
Playing catch-up here. Nice outer shield outline!

PCGS defines a Full Head as follows;

1919-S-L-B-Quarter---Full-Head?

Type II Standing Liberty quarters receive the Full Head designation when the helmet exhibits three complete and distinct leaves, a complete outline on the bottom of the helmet, and a clear ear hole on Miss Liberty's head.
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 Posted 10/03/2025  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
Full Head is so hard to tell - even if designated from a TPG.
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 Posted 10/06/2025  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary to your friends list
Here is a Full head to compare.


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 Posted 10/06/2025  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary to your friends list
Here is what a fully struck SLQ looks like. They don't come much better than this example.


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 Posted 10/07/2025  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I second @believer, it does not technically match the quality you need for Full Head designation, but the third party grading services can be all over the place. If you submit it enough times under the right conditions, it is near certain it could get FH.

I would not purchase it as FH, nor expect to get the designation within a try or two.
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 Posted 04/26/2026  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list
does not quite look fh to me. it is a real beaut though.
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 Posted 05/08/2026  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buffalo soldat to your friends list
Thanks to all for further thoughts, photos and explanations.
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 Posted 05/08/2026  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list
Great post, love all the close up pics. SL quarters are one of my favorites!
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