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 Posted 06/01/2009  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bill069 to your friends list
Here are better images of one coin. so far more members are again cleaning/dipping the coin.
The only factor that has me considering Cleaning/Dipping the coin is Eye Appeal.
How would this coin grade as it looks now?
I don't want to use the word "clean", I think we all feel that's a no-no. If I preserve the coin with a dip, do you think the grade would improve?
Appreciate the feed back, thanks.

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 Posted 06/01/2009  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I consider that coin beautiful. Maybe MS 64 or MS 65.
Cant tell for sure but it looks like the cartwheel effect of a BU coin is shining at mostly 2 O'clock and 9 o'clock on both obverse and reverse.
It's definitely a no clean coin IMO now for sure.
Nice pictures too! Good job!
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 Posted 06/01/2009  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add urbnlgnd to your friends list
Beautiful coin. I'm with some of the others. I wouldn't clean it.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bill069 to your friends list
Thanks once again for the comments. If I do nothing at all at least I have learned to take better pictures.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
The pictures are much better and that coin should go MS64.

I would not dip it. There seems to be a lot of confusion about dipping vs. cleaning. Cleaning is a dirty word in numismatics. Dipping a silver coin for a few seconds is not improperly cleaning, it is often called conservation.

Be that as it may, you have a valuable pre-'21 MS Morgan that I would not dip. The toning is not unattractive so I would leave it as is.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Agree. I am of the opinion that a coin that old should look old, not like it was produced last week.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I guess I am old school on dipping and it stuck in my head not to do that, I think my reasoning was ( perhaps I was told ) that sometimes carbon spots might disappear with a short dip but they come back in time in the same exact places anyways.
I wonder if the cartwheel and/or luster is dulled each time a coin is dipped?
Me, I would rather the toning, it seems to tone so far and stay the same at some point. Almost as if it is a natural seal against oxidization. Which I think is what the toning is anyway.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

Quote:
There seems to be a lot of confusion about dipping vs. cleaning...Dipping a silver coin for a few seconds is not improperly cleaning

The problem arises because it seems that too many people improperly dip(too long, too concentrated, and not rinsed/neutralized)- thus producing a dead, lusterless, stark white coin that may develop ugly stains in a few years
Because it takes skill to know when to dip and how to do it, I do not casually recommend it.

BTW, I think this coin is perfectly fine with the rim toning.
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 Posted 06/08/2009  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John Paul to your friends list
I think if not cleaning the coin will result in some sort of damage you should do it. Otherwise, you should generally avoid it. If you have a really dirty circulated coin - not in great condition, dipping might be fine.
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 Posted 06/11/2009  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratman4762 to your friends list
Looks fine to me the way it is!
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 Posted 06/16/2009  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rustyboy to your friends list
There is no way the bright white luster of a "cleaned" coin would surpass the aged beauty developed here.
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 Posted 06/23/2009  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackBill to your friends list
That's a really nice coin. The picture is way nicer than I thought reading your original post.
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 Posted 06/23/2009  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electric_Op_Ltd to your friends list
Oh PLEASE don't dip that beauty. I don't know what it grades offhand but its very attractive and I agree with the poster who said they'd rather have that than a blast white. Leave the dipping to the ebay gang ... present company excepted of course.

Bruce
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 Posted 10/27/2009  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list
Please........don't clean, shes just fine.
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 Posted 01/06/2010  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list
Does that look like it has already been cleaned to anyone else.
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Between "One and United" along the edge.
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