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Will The BEP Ever Quit Printing 2017A $2 FRNs And Issue A New Series?

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 Posted 06/29/2025  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list

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I wonder if this would be the first time a new series was printed with signatures of a Treasury Secretary and Treasurer with neither of them in office at the time?


No.
For example: Mnuchin (Secretary) / Carranza (Treasurer) signature notes were printed long after they had left office.
Edited by redlock
06/29/2025 12:37 pm
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 Posted 06/29/2025  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list
Yes, but the series was started and first printed while they were in office. It's not that unusual for a series to continue to be printed for a while after the Secretary and Treasurer have left office.

I'm wondering if this is the first time a series is first printed with the names of folks who are no longer in office.
Edited by BadDog
06/29/2025 1:09 pm
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 Posted 07/10/2025  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list
Absolutely no reason they can't sign and get the ball rolling already on 2025 notes. IDK why they always seem to see this as an afterthought.
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 Posted 09/03/2025  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list
When I was checking to see if any BEP production reports past Apr 2025 are available (there currently aren't any), I took another look at the BEP's Mar 2025 production report. I'm not 100% convinced that any 2021 series $2 star notes were printed

The report says J* $2 notes were printed BUT it also says that the series letter for the notes was "Q". Unless things have changed, $1 and $2 FRNs don't have a series letter, so a "Q" series letter is not consistent with past practice.

It could be there is a typo in the denomination column and $2 isn't correct. Maybe these were in fact $5 QJ* notes. Guess we'll just have to wait until more BEP reports are available to verify series 2021 $2 FRNs have been printed
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 Posted 09/05/2025  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list
QJ 000 00001 * for $5 was already printed October 2023
QJ 032 00000 *

QJ 032 00001 * in March 2025 could be $5 not $2 i.e. a typo
QJ 064 00000 *

QJ 000 00001 * in March 2025 could not be $5 though: that would collide
QJ 005 00000 *

Time will tell...
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 Posted 09/05/2025  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list

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...could not be $5 though: that would collide


RIght you are. I didn't check to see if any $5 QJ* notes had been printed when I said maybe these could be $5s. Can't be 10s or 100s either as those have been printed.

They could be 20s. Twenties would be an easy typo. Leave off the 0 and $20 becomes $2. Plus, it looks like the series 2021 $20 FRNs began printing in Jan 25. Having the first * notes printed in March seems consistent with this start of printing
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 Posted 09/06/2025  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list
I sent a request for clarification to the BEP. Let's see if they respond...
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 Posted 09/07/2025  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I sent a request for clarification to the BEP. Let's see if they respond...
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 Posted 09/20/2025  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list
It's getting better. And by that I mean it's getting worse.

Over on another forum someone got the May-to-August reports.

And in the August report those exact $2 notes show up once again...

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 Posted 09/20/2025  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list
I filed an electronic FOIA request with the BEP, to get to the bottom of this, i.e. a review and correction of their 2025 reports, and a return to the decade old practice of linking the monthly reports on their public website in a timely fashion. Stay tuned...
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 Posted 09/22/2025  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VictoryHighway to your friends list
Looks like these notes were printed in the new fifty notes per sheet format. Were the 2017- A $2's printed in this format also?
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 Posted 09/23/2025  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list

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> Looks like these notes were printed in the new fifty notes per sheet format.
*** Edited by Staff to add Quote tags. Please use them in the future. ***

For the 500k run it explicitly says 10k sheets.
The 3.2m run could be 100k... or 64k sheets.
It is all speculation until the BEP cleans it up.


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> Were the 2017- A $2's printed in this format also?


Some were. Others were not. Take a look at

https://www.uspapermoney.info/serials/f2017ab.html

https://www.uspapermoney.io/serials/f2017ab.html

https://www.wavelengthinteractive.c...017A&denom=2

whereas the 1st is the now stale site, the 2nd
is the more recent version, and the 3rd is yet
more recent and up-to-date. (Or crawl all the
monthly BEP reports from scratch of course.)
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 Posted 09/23/2025  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list

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Over on another forum someone got the May-to-August reports.
...and did they say how they got these reports since they aren't on the BEP's website

and that Aug table is a little different in that it now has a "type" column with "N/A" indicated. Wonder what's that all about
Edited by BadDog
09/23/2025 2:40 pm
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 Posted 09/23/2025  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list

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...and did they say how they got these reports since they aren't on the BEP's website

With a FOIA request.

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and that Aug table is a little different in that it now has a "type" column with "N/A" indicated. Wonder what's that all about

Plus swapped rows.
Edited by lautlos
09/23/2025 3:01 pm
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 Posted 10/27/2025  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lautlos to your friends list
An update.

My BEP FOIA request was unsuccessful.

"The BEP FOIA program does not correct error elsewhere."

At this point it's probably gonna take a request to the office of the director...
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