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 Posted 08/06/2025  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
For slabs, I started using these cases:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TK465RG

This is my Indian Head cent collection.
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Here is a set in OGP, slabs and mylar.

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I've been a collector since I was 7, going on 49 years and my collection mostly looks the same as when I got them. I use better methods now but I never let the coins/currency get wet.

As for slabs, coins inside will last decades, I have several Anacs Soapboxes that are close to or over 30 years old.

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 Posted 08/07/2025  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Here in Phoenix, we don't really have that much to worry about moisture. we live in an oven year round.
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 Posted 08/07/2025  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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. Here in Phoenix, we don't really have that much to worry about moisture. we live in an oven year round.


John, since it's so hot does the heat damage the coins?
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 Posted 08/08/2025  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Coins alone should be able take the dry heat. However, I would worry about storage—albums, holders, etc. Their materials may break down in really high heat and cause damage. So, I would be running the AC there, even if it has to be on 85°F just to keep from going broke.
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 Posted 08/08/2025  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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Coins alone should be able take the dry heat. However, I would worry about storage—albums, holders, etc. Their materials may break down in really high heat and cause damage. So, I would be running the AC there, even if it has to be on 85°F just to keep from going broke


Thinking the same thing, at 100*+ in an attic, the glue must start to liquify. Plastic will even melt at over 100 and the ground in AZ can get over 160*. So I guess if in a really hot area don't store coins in an attic.
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 Posted 08/08/2025  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Yes. Attics and basements are really bad places unless there is some sort of climate control.
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 Posted 08/13/2025  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Cool, Dark and Dry is what you want for storage. Gold is the least likely metal to have issues, silver, next with primarily toning or tarnishing issues. Copper and bronze are the most susceptible to elemental issues, such as color changing, corrosion, verdigris, etc.

I've never had issues with my 2x2 Mylar flips and I staple them as well, though the staples are flat cinched and if needed squeezed with pliers. It is a cost-effective storage method in my case of a thousand or so lower grade Two Cent varieties. My better coins (copper) all live in cotton sleeves inside archival paper envelopes. A few are in Intercept holders.

Take the 2x2 storage box and place it in a Tupperware or Ziploc bag with a pack of desiccant. Remember to check in on your coins every few months or at a minimum of 6 months, to recharge or change the desiccant packs. I have moved from a very dry climate (Denver) to a much wetter climate of San Diego (Salt water), then Texas (lots of humidity). Coins in my safe also have additional moisture removal tubs I check on fairly regularly; coins in the bank deposit box just have large desiccant pouches, which I switch out every couple of months.

Checking in on your coins is a good thing, as if issues start you may have time to stop them. I lost a very nice Indian Head cent collection and high end Lincoln Cent set when I went off to college and just stored my collections away. They were in Harco PVC albums. All my nicer red coins were now brown and stained or pitted with acid that had etched into the coins due to the poor designed albums, see my story here: https://goccf.com/t/370336

One thing I've learned over many years is food safe storage is likely fine for coins as well, (no guarantees though) That's why I said use Tupperware tubs as storage areas, never had any issues myself over 40 years or so now.
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 Posted 08/13/2025  06:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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1. Are there any downsides to cardboard flips? Are they all equivalent, or are there 2x2 flips to avoid or specific brands to seek out?

They're mostly all Made In China these days, so quality can be random, even for 2x2s sold under the same "brand", as they may have been made at different times and places.

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2. Staples make me nervous, so I have been closing the flips with blue painter's tape on three sides. Is there any hazard of outgassing, adhesive deterioration, et cetera from this strategy?

If you're going to be staple-avoidant, you may as well spend the extra money and buy self-adhesive flips. Anything adhesive is a potential outgasser as it ages; as with the flips themselves, it's a matter of trial and error.

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3. Pennsylvania isn't the jungle, but it does get humid here sometimes. Is there some sort of desiccant pack to keep in the box itself? Are there types or brands to avoid or seek out? I could easily see a dessicant pack releasing gases or particles over time.

Get yourself some self-indicating silica gel. The typical formula contains cobalt chloride, which is blue when dry and pink when wet. The indicating crystals not only tell you when they're wet (and thus need refreshing), but also help you in the refreshing stage: put pink silica gel in a cool oven (less than boiling) until the crystals all turn blue again. Raw silica gel is mostly harmless but cobalt chloride is toxic, so don't eat them.

Neither silica gel, nor cobalt chloride, will outgas. In my experimentation, indicating silica gel is harmless to coins unless the pieces of gel are in direct physical contact with the coins. Avoid doing that, and you should be golden.

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4. I purchased PCGS plastic boxes for my slabs. Same questions as for 2 and 3.

The boxes cannot be made of the same acrylic as the slabs, because putting two similar plastics together is always a bad idea, as they tend to stick together with time and/or pressure - this is why plastic bottle caps are always made from a dissimilar plastic to the bottle itself. But I'm sure the slab-box plastic has undergone the same rigorous testing to be coin-safe as the slabs themselves.
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quality can be random, even for 2x2s sold under the same "brand", as they may have been made at different times and places.
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This is a very educational thread. Here is what I have gathered so far:

Coins should be stored in Mylar and cardboard flips. Due to everything being made in China these days, brand name is not necessarily a guarantee of top notch quality. The self-adhesive flips could possibly outgas, and my painter's tape is maybe not a great idea, so I should probably just get comfortable with stapling flips the proper way.

It's fine to store 2x2 flips in plastic boxes. Same with slabs. Nothing but the flips and slabs go in the boxes.

The 2x2 storage boxes should go into a Tupperware container.

Desiccant packs should be placed in the Tupperware. They shouldn't be near the coins themselves. You can buy self-indicating packs that turn from blue to pink when they absorb moisture. These can be gently dried in the oven and reused.

The Tupperware container should be stored somewhere dark, cool, and dry. The desiccant packs should be checked every few months.
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 Posted 08/14/2025  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
If you have raw coins, you might consider CAPS holders. https://www.capsalbums.com
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 Posted 09/06/2025  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cptbilly to your friends list
I have my slabbed coins in 2 mil LDPE 3 x 4 zipper bags:
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Protects the slab from scuffs & scratches.
The same company offers a 4 mil PP version that is clearer.

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The 2x2s work well for most coins, if you do three things. First, use needle nose pliers to crimp down the staples. Second, pack them tightly in the 2x2 boxes to prevent the coins from moving. Third, store them in a dry place. Either use large dessicant containers or a dehumidifier to remove moisture from the area. If you use the dessicant containers, remember to replace them as recommended. Circulated coins that I put in the cardboard 2x2s in the 1960s and 1970s were still fine when I liquidated my inventory and collection over the last few years. BU coins I put in Capital Plastics holders back then were exactly the same all these years later. I'd be cautious in using any kind of tape to seal the 2x2s because of the chemicals in the tape, and I'd avoid all of the paper 2x2 flips.

Coins I put in the older albums (all mine were Wayte Raymond / National Coin albums) were in great shape, but had acquired beautiful light toning over the years. My Buffalo nickel collection toned lightly with the classic gold tint that those particular albums produce. The silver coins toned lightly near the rims. The bronze coins didn't change at all. Gold coins, naturally, did fine.

Coin tubes work very well over longer periods. Long story here, but I'll give the short version. Way back in the day, Grover Criswell talked me into buying prooflike Morgan dollars, when everybody hated them. (People thought they looked "weird" and wanted what we later called the blast white coins.) I took his advice, and went a *little* overboard in buying them. I stored them in tubes, with a cotton ball on top and on the bottom. I've been liquidating that part of the inventory a couple hundred a year for the last few years, and will finish that task in the next year or so. ALL of the coins were and are exactly how they looked when I put them in the tubes 45-55 years ago.

These coins were stored in a large safe, with a dessicant tub that I swapped out every 6 months. My safe was stored at a climate-controlled property title office inside their huge records safe. That office was located in a dry adjoining state.

Yes, it's bone dry here. But other environmental factors like annual wildfire smoke can affect the coins. Flash floods and tornadoes aren't recommended, either.

I found that these storage methods worked well.
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