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Quote: I have ordered this book from Amazon and if I am not satisfied I will return it by January 31 and let you know why. It should be in my mailbox by Wednesday.   |
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I know nothing about Ms. Barclay's books, so I do not know of they were AI generated or not. I am wondering, how many Canadian nickels exist dated 1858 to 1921?
As any AI numismatic books are generated, I will be very interested in how well, or badly, they handle the copyrighted material of other numismatic authors. I will reserve judgment, but I am not optimistic on that point.
http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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12/14/2025 3:54 pm
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And images, not easy to obtain enough for such an undertaking to be successful.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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And images. Assembling the permissions for a numismatic book can be a real chore. Just to give one example, my book Past & Nearly Perfect had many pictures of rare Canadian coins in it. I owned maybe 40% of the coins and took the pictures of them, so I own the rights to those photos. I also used pictures owned by The Royal Mint Museum, British Museum, Heritage, PCGS, the Bank of Canada, the British National Archives, and others. In each of those cases, I obtained written documentation (emails, license agreements, etc.) granting me permission to use them. In some cases, I had to pay the owners for those permissions. In the end, I bound the permissions into a booklet (about 40 pages worth) and gave a copy to the publisher, the RCNA, so they would understand the copyright status for those elements of the book. My initial impression of AI generated work is that it makes a travesty of copyright law and conventional plagiarism standards. It will take years for the courts to catch up with the mess, if they ever do catch up. That is what AI works rely upon. http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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So she didn't even do her own research? Ain't that AI Plagiarism?
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So she didn't even do her own research? Ain't that AI Plagiarism? That is what all the courts need to decide.  |
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Unless a person has seen her books, they cannot realistically form an opinion on the quality of her research. I have not seen one of her books, so as I said above, I reserve judgment. My AI comments above are general comments, not aimed specifically at this author, made because the subject was raised earlier in the thread.
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Well said. |
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Because of course.  |
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I received the book yesterday and will give you my first thoughts. Firstly, if your coins have been certified by PCGS there is a chance this author may use pCGS photos in her books. Easy peasy, she has permission to from PCGS. I don't agree with this harvesting method, but it isout there. First error ERROR I found was the hearing aid was called a Cud! Not a die clash. The photo exists of a 1858 large date five cents even though none have been certified (none exist). This means her book has a photo where Charlton catalogue has image not available! Amazing!!! She shows 1858 five cents stuck in medal and coinage axis.? I think only coinage is correct. Where did price information come from? Edited by Zonad
12/18/2025 08:48 am
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Well, Randy, we should assign you as the doctor to dissect the verbiage and photos on one of your favorite subjects.... Vicky 5 cent varieties. Is your latest coin in there? What are the author's credentials? Thank you for getting the book to clue us in.
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12/18/2025 9:27 pm
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So my question for Bosox.... Rob , you took pictures of your coins for your books but aren't the coins PCGS certified and photographed?
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Some are, some are not. Some ICCS and NGC, some raw.
Some older graded ones are PCGS with no photo taken.
http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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12/23/2025 10:31 am
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Randy, if your question is, can the owner of a coin object if PCGS takes a picture of it during grading and then later allows an author to publish it, then in my opinion the answer is no. I think that the grading picture belongs to PCGS, not the coin owner.
If I take a different picture of the same coin, that picture is mine and I could object to others publishing my image of the coin.
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12/24/2025 03:31 am
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