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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Possible, it's all about the die markers and the experience with these in order to attribute. Did you submit it as a proof to NGC? If you did, perhaps someone made a mistake, call them ASAP. Lets see the slab please. 1916 is a tricky year because they modified the design and re-engraved the master hub that year. Many very, very sharp business coins were produced with exceptional detail in 1916. This master hub produced both the business and proof strike dies so those little nicks and imperfections in the proof working die(s) are about the only way to tell the difference. I probably told you what you already knew - but GOOD LUCK FRIEND! I'd say it's a beautiful coin, I absolutely LOVE that very fine woodgrained look!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think the third die pair could have been used on circulated business strikes as well. There has been some VERY strong indicators that retired proof dies for Lincolns were moved into production. 1909 being the most suspect year, I don't recall anything like of this for 1916 off the top of my head..... but anything is possible with the mint. Either fix your issue with NGC or use another TPG. Honestly, I'd try to save some money, challenge ICG with the coin. They are experts in Lincoln cents - I know their main grader Skip, a true expert in numismatics. If he's is unsure, he knows who to talk to. They will get it right! Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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02/21/2026 12:46 am
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 to the CCF Please be mindful to include the denomination in your thread title. There were many denominations minted in 1916 and the year alone does not identify the specific coin you wish to discuss. I'm going to ask a moderator to include it in your title. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Dang, that's a nice looking coin  . Appears to be at least mid MS/PF, what grade did NGC give? Edited by coin rejector
02/21/2026 3:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but the 1916 Matte Proof Lincoln Cent has the lowest mintage for the entire Matte Proof Lincoln Cent series of only 600 total coins minted, right? I clearly see the squared off rim matte proofs are known for... So yeah, there's gonna be a huge difference in value between a MS example and a matte proof example. Is it possible to call NGC directly and actually talk to a real person about this? I'd be frustrated as hell over this if it were me!  |
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Just recently went to a coin auction and some high end dealers are suggesting that an error was made on NGC's part and informed me they are by far the worst place to send your coins into. Many mistakes from their experience. Will be calling again tomorrow to escalate this. They told me I could send it in again but I would be charged to have it reevaluated.
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United States
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 Here's it is. I'm pretty frustrated. Spent close to $450 for 5 coins to be graded. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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some high end dealers are suggesting that an error was made on NGC's part and informed me they are by far the worst place to send your coins into. Did any of them dealers offer to buy it from you?  At only 1050 minted somebody should have wanted it if they really thought it was a proof. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU details, wow, they really hated that coin. It must be missing cartwheel luster, the pics don't really show anything out of the normal except the woodgraining - which is NOT from cleaning.
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02/24/2026 10:13 am
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Here's it is. I'm pretty frustrated. Spent close to $450 for 5 coins to be graded. Ouch.  |
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New Member
United States
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Yeah they were interested in purchasing it. A lot of them weren't well experienced with Lincoln cents a few seem repulsed that it was cleaned as of I had done it lol you can see brush marks under a magnifying glass. Not sure if that's why it looks wood Grained. I'd be willing to let it go for a fair price.
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United States
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that cent looks great - not cleaned, but there is that small carbon spot under the date.
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New Member
United States
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Thank you Dearborn! It almost looks like an improper alloy mix causing the grainy texture not brush marks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i think ngc missed the mark---
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