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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since Covid prices have increased a lot. I think more time and money brought many new people into the hobby.
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Valued Member
United States
83 Posts |
As an old fart, I'm not too worried about it either way as I won't be here! However I am actively selling my stuff, accumulated over 60+ years, and I think everything has done very, very well. Anything with silver or gold has that intrinsic melt value that will always be there as long as the metal is valuable. In the 1960's, who would have thought silver would reach $120/oz and gold over $5k? Where will it be in 30 years? Who knows?
Collectibles of any kind go up and down, but long term they mostly go up, IF you stick to actual rare stuff instead of whatever is being hyped. When I was actively buying in the 60s-early 90's I bought a lot of stuff from old people. Now I am one.
You also need to remember that old people have the money and the free time to devote to their hobby that most young folks do not. I have a nephew who is almost 40 who is interested and I encourage him when I can. However with work, family, volunteer work, and life in general he has no time and not much money to invest. As he gets older he might be more active.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
26637 Posts |
Quote: IF you stick to actual rare stuff instead of whatever is being hyped Like Beanie Babies?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7362 Posts |
You can never tell, there have been times that coins have gone down in value. There are other collectibles that once people assumed would keep on going up like Stamps which have crashed in value and are selling below face value. So coins may keep on going or they might not. I think if you are selective and buy quality you will do well but there is no guarantee.
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Valued Member
United States
83 Posts |
Quote: Like Beanie Babies? ...and those "rare" MS-68 Ike dollars! I always chuckle a bit at condition rarity on common coins, but to each his/her own!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6719 Posts |
I think you are conflating two questions. Will coin collecting remain popular in future generations? Will coin shows be popular in future generations.
I think lots of people will continue to enjoy coin collecting for decades to come.
I also think the days of crowded, loud, chaotic, dimly lit coin shows are numbered.
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New Member
 United States
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Brandmeister: Why do you think that coin shows are on the way out but not coin collecting? I think coin shows are great because of the superior convenience. I can easily visit multiple dealers in one place. If it hadn't been for the coin show, getting offers on the coins I was trying to sell would have required driving all over the place.
I'm aware that people buy and sell coins online, but I don't like that idea. At the coin show, I was able to hand the coins to the dealer, and the dealer was able to hand the coins back if I didn't want to accept the offer right away. There was no need to mail/ship anything and no need to get insurance on the coins. There's just so much less that can go wrong when buyers and sellers physically meet.
If I had been interested in buying coins, I would have asked each dealer how much he/she was charging for the coins on my wish list, and I would have been able to inspect the coins myself to verify the claimed condition of each one. Again, there's just so much less that can go wrong when buyers and sellers physically meet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Rare graded coins should continue to go up in value however I worry about fakes ruining the hobby. I doubt any major significant hoards get uncovered with mass amounts of rare date classic coins. Likely a few here and there as collectors pass away but likely not enough to change the values significantly. Common mass produced stuff like proof sets will likely never be worth a ton. But as others have said there will be ups and downs.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6719 Posts |
Quote: I think coin shows are great because of the superior convenience. I can easily visit multiple dealers in one place. I can log onto ebay and view coin shops from all across the country. I can do that at my own convenience at any time of day or night, comparing quality and prices from the comfort of my couch. Most good stores take decent pictures, so I can examine the coins with much better detail and lighting than a loupe at a coin show. Many shops offer a full, no hassle refund on coin returns. When examining coins online, I have full access to historical sales prices on similar coins and all my reference websites and books. I can refer to them without any space or time pressure. Online, I also do not have to navigate aisles packed with people, breathing the same air that might carry flu, COVID, or whatever other contagious junk is floating around that month. Quote: I'm aware that people buy and sell coins online, but I don't like that idea. If that's your starting point, then your remaining options are physical coin shops and physical coin shows. I stand by my belief that online coin shops and ebay will be the preferred coin shopping method for everyone under 50 or 60 years old. As the old timers fade away, coin shows will also fade, except perhaps the huge ones like the World Fair of Money.
Edited by Brandmeister Yesterday 09:43 am
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New Member
 United States
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Brandmeister: I'm also concerned about infectious airborne diseases. That's why I've doubled down on vaccination and N95 masks. I have air purifiers running at home. (Believe it or not, there are ways to build air purifiers on the cheap.)
I make sure to get the Novavax vaccine the flu shot every year. I got revaccinated against MMR in 2024-2025, because it was easier than getting my titers checked. I've also made sure to get all the other vaccines that I'm eligible for.
I wore a 3M Aura mask (which is N95) at yesterday's coin show. It's my overall favorite mask to wear when I'm breathing the same indoor air as others. You can test a mask on the cheap by spraying a sweet or bitter solution with a nano-mister. You can judge the effectiveness of a mask by whether you can taste the sweet or bitter solution.
You can build an air purifier on the cheap by taping a 20"x20" furnace air filter to the back of a Lasko 20-inch box fan. This filter can be a 4-inch thick MERV 13 filter (most effective), a 1-inch-thick MERV 10 filter (cheapest and most portable), or a 2-inch-thick MERV 11 filter (intermediate solution). If I were a dealer, I would use one of these box fan air purifiers at every coin show AND wear a 3M Aura mask.
You should also read up on Corsi Rosenthal boxes. If you want a quiet air purifier, I recommend the Brisk Box from a company called Clean Air Kits. It uses an array of PC fans (which are quiet and energy efficient) and four MERV 13 filters (much more cost effective than the proprietary air filters used in commercial air purifiers).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1281 Posts |
I can not argue against Brandmeister opinion. You have to remember that the younger generation weather good or bad prefers to shop on line and never leave their home. As the boomers get older and die off this will be come the way most shop. And it has already begun to happen.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2594 Posts |
will coins continue to appreciate in value?
probably. especially if we go cashless, or coinless. mho.
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Moderator
 Australia
16928 Posts |
A large driver of "where coin prices will go in the future" depends to a large part on what happens with coins themselves - will they remain a visible, viable part of the economy and in people's daily experiences, or will they become a curious anachronism like swords and oil lamps, relics of a bygone era with little to no practical function in modern society?
Coin collecting is popular because it's super-easy to "get started": all you need to do is sort through your change. That's how many of the "old guys" got their start as kids back in the previous century, and will continue to be the main "recruiting ground" for future coin collectors. A proportion of those fishing-coins-from-change collectors will go on to become those "spend big bucks on rare coins" collectors. But if coins essentially disappear from public view (if everyone goes cashless or if the dollar becomes so worthless that the only "cash" anyone normally uses is notes), that means fewer new collectors to replace those old ones. And that will inevitably lead to lower demand, and lower prices.
I've often said that one of the reasons I like collecting coins is that coins are a tangible continuum of history - they are one of the few ancient inventions that are still in use today. Suppose you were to travel back in time, kidnap a random Roman citizen, and dump them on a 21st century street. They'd be totally confused by everything they saw around them - the culture, the language, the fashion, the technology - but show them a coin, and they'd not only know exactly what it was, but roughly how to use it.
Sadly, unless something drastic happens with our modern culture, I think the 21st century is going to be the last where that first sentence in the above paragraph is going to be true. And "people who become interested in curious anachronisms" are always going to be smaller in number than "people who are interested in everyday objects".
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
6719 Posts |
AU, that is quite a wealth of information on airborne disease countermeasures! I am of the opinion that if I am in a crowd so densely packed with air so contaminated, that I am probably just in the wrong place and a mask won't do much good. I extremely dislike planes right now for the same reason. Half the people I know who fly on vacation get sick during or afterwards. No thanks!
I do go to our small local coin show occasionally, but the prices were high, and it is simply not as convenient for examining coins, doing research, taking my time. I did enjoy the bargain bin diving though. =)
Sap, I think a reasonably intelligent Roman citizen would recognize a lot of stuff—buildings with doors and windows, roads, wheeled conveyances with a mysterious power source, clothing, jewelry, signage, restaurants, and so forth. The specifics would completely astound them, of course.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
759 Posts |
I'm 75 and have collected coins since I was 7. In that entire time I have read countless letters to the editor about the need to get young people intrrested in the hobby, and here we are, still chugging along. By the way Brandmeister, thanks for the anecdotal evidence about flying. Exactly one month from today I'll be on a 10 1/2 hour flight to Paris. Good luck to me I guess. Au revoir.
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