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1799 Draped Bust Dollar You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 08/26/2026  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list
I think it might even make xf-40
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 Posted 08/26/2026  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list
My initial reaction was also XF-40. May get net graded down to VF-30/35 for scrapes and old cleaning.
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 Posted 08/26/2026  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Beautiful! I say VF35.
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 Posted 08/27/2026  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Beautiful coin.

I'll go VF35
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 Posted 08/28/2026  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
PCGS GRADED: VF30 BB165
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 Posted 08/28/2026  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i think its a little low but I've seen this before on these early pieces. I see more strike issues than they probably attested to. its a super nice example of an 18th century dollar
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 Posted 08/28/2026  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
panzaldi you are correct about the strike issues with the early dollars. Below is a PCGS MS62+, BB165 with the same strike issue on the reverse. If the grading on the 62+ is correct, the OP reverse sure does not look like a VF30.

I typically do not buy coins with strike issues, but on the 1799, I did make an exception.

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 Posted 08/29/2026  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
slider I think it comes down to the person they assign the coin to. . you would think they should be able to discern the difference between strike and wear. a good bit of what we see here, especially the reverse, is strike. this always has bothered me as I believe a coin should be assessed based on how it left the mint. even looking at the obv of this coin, the sharpness of the stars, lettering, date and curls on the top of the head all point to weak strike.

the price difference on this coin between 30 and 35 is negligible so I guess its not that big of deal.

based on your initial comment it sounds like you attributed it already as there are like 1000 varieties
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 Posted 09/05/2026  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Just got the 1799 in hand and below is a photo of the coin and holder.
I am going to ask the seller if it has been to CAC as I am not seeing anything that would hold it back from a sticker.
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 Posted 09/06/2026  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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I am not seeing anything that would hold it back from a sticker.


absolutely deserves a bean.
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 Posted 09/06/2026  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
The coin has been recently put in a PCGS holder and the original photos posted are PCGS True Views that show the coin with light brown toning. I am not sure why PCGS puts out photos that the color is off. My photos show the color as it looks in hand. The seller's photos made the coin look dark. Below are three different photos and the challenges that we face buying from photo's online.
What coin would you Buy?

Seller's Photo Below:
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True View Photo Below:
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My Photo of What it Looks Like in Hand Below:
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 Posted 09/06/2026  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list
I like the coin as pictured in your photos.
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 Posted 09/07/2026  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
thats crazy. if you did not see these side by side one could say they were different coins. just goes to show you that photos are deceiving. I would never go by TV photos, however, it is showing that mark in front of the mouth where in the other two photos its not as noticeable. I think you just need to look at the coin in hand and decide which photo best represents the coin in hand.

personally I like your photo and if I didnt know they were the same coin I would go with yours
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Nice
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