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1800 Dollar Altered To 1804 On Ebay

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 Posted 09/22/2026  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Very interesting. At least the seller is honest about the date being altered. Props to the seller for being honest and up front.
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 Posted 09/22/2026  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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At least the seller is honest about the date being altered

altered, no, seller it is just damaged - leaving the buyer to figure out how.
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 Posted 09/22/2026  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
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leaving the buyer to figure out how.

OR maybe the bidders read the item description and not just the title.....
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 Posted 09/23/2026  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Altered date most probably,
but
I think an altered date
on a fake coin.

I think it crazy to alter the date on a genuine coin of this type.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
This coin isn't genuine.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list

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This coin isn't genuine.


Elaborate please? 8 hours left..

And just in general, I wish people wouldn't post big important claims like this and just leave it with no further discussion. A quality post gives a reason for the statement, it's better for learning and discussion all around. Please & thank you.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
The coin looks like a genuine 1800 to me.
You can see the shadow of the "0" behind the 4.
No one is going to take a fake 1800 and go through
the trouble to make a fake 1804.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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You can see the shadow of the "0" behind the 4. No one is going to take a fake 1800 and go through the trouble to make a fake 1804.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add henryvoight to your friends list
Matches up perfectly with BB-192. I figure it must be a very old alteration, maybe 1870-1900? The 4 is executed really well, and its very close to an actual 1804 dollar, although despite the excellent work I doubt it fooled too many people, considering the ghost of the 0 is still obvious.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
I am leaning toward the example as being a genuine 1800 with an altered date. The coin has the ebay Authenticity Guarantee, and will be sent to PCGS for authenticity. How does PCGS rule on the authenticity if it is a genuine 1800 with an altered date? The example is a fake 1804.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list
And ... SOLD, for $1180. That would be a whopping bargain if it were the original 1800 in that condition, the market really punished the 'enhancement'.
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 Posted 09/23/2026  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Prior to when the toning became bolder, I'm wondering how much of the "ghost" 0 was visible? Guess we'll never know.
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And ... SOLD, for $1180. That would be a whopping bargain if it were the original 1800 in that condition, the market really punished the 'enhancement'.
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 Posted Today  1H 38M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
Confusion on my end. I too am curious how Pcgs will treat this one with the new authenticity guarantee.
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I wonder if someone really wanted the coin as a genuine 1800 with an expertly altered date, perhaps for a counterfeit collection, would the ebay authenticity guarantee prevent them from acquiring the coin?
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