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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I reported this situation to e-bay. Don't know if it will do any good.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
535 Posts |
Two ways to deal with this: 1) Give the guy the benefit of the doubt - maybe his child is ill and he needs medical care. Maybe he got a better offer and needs more money. Who wouldn't back out of a transaction to help pay for medical bills of their child? Let it go and move on in life. 2) Assume the guy is no good. That sure is a pain to buy something then have the seller back out of the transaction. Wouldn't that be a pain if every time you listed something on ebay some bidder won the auction and then backed out of the transaction? Karma is a very strong force in this world, so I would recommend you go with option 1. (But option 2 sounds like a lot of fun, huh?) |
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Valued Member
United States
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It happens because, well, its ebay, and well, it happens. You did your due diligence by leaving the feedback. Nuff said, leave it at that. I assume that when I list a coin on ebay, my starting bid is very well what I could end up selling the coin for. I calculate that bid accordingly. Example, what if I had a 1999 silver proof set that I paid 34.95 for at the mint? Well heck, if I sell it for 90 dollars I've tripled my money. But if I want to play smart, I'll use a three figure opening bid. That way I KNOW I'll either a) get no bids or b) receive what I think is adequate money. Here's two experiences I had as buyer: 1) Live auction, was an 1850's type I gold dollar. Bidding started at 80 dollars, went up to 150... then the auctioneer announces he has a "reserve" of 170 on the coin (placed by the consignor, not him, he's a pretty straight up guy). Greysheet bid was 190, no one bid at that level, lot not sold. LOL my high bid was 50 dollars  2) A major auction house had a 1911-D half eagle listed in 3 consecutive sales... at a crazy low price with no bids! I couldn't fathom it. Then the 4th time, I pounced on it, only to find my bids were for nothing because "at the last minute, the consignor placed a reserve on this coin", sorry , thanks for playing. I wrote a very polite email protesting, but hey I can't force them, and I'm not hiring a lawyer for something that's worth 1000 dollars. I hate to say it but you gotta chalk this up to experience. HTH Bruce |
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 United States
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Quote:That goes beyond negative feedback. ebay needs to close that account Good luck with that. In ebay's eyes, he's another money maker for them. Unfortunately, as I have stated before, ebay has chosen to make it's rules very liberal and the result is an example of the transaction above. You as a buyer have to choose weather you want to take a chance with the transaction been followed through with. It stinks, but that's just what it's become. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1807 Posts |
Yep, "It happens because, well, its ebay, and well, it happens". I'll keep an eye open for that coin just to see what really happened. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2335 Posts |
Quote:1) Give the guy the benefit of the doubt - maybe his child is ill and he needs medical care. Maybe he got a better offer and needs more money. Who wouldn't back out of a transaction to help pay for medical bills of their child? Let it go and move on in life. 2) Assume the guy is no good. That sure is a pain to buy something then have the seller back out of the transaction. Wouldn't that be a pain if every time you listed something on ebay some bidder won the auction and then backed out of the transaction? IMO it doesn't make any difference what the guys motivation was, he proved what kind of person he was by his actions. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1807 Posts |
I wrote him to say I don't feel comfortable buying from him with what happened. His reply "I don't care. I have million buyers out there who are interested get these coins. You won't get it. I have many many coins to sell from good to uncirculated. also In future I will sell gold coins. GOODBYE"
Sweet seller.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3098 Posts |
Let's scratch off that a few million after that negative. Do any of you read feedback? I sure do, and if a person has one very recent, I shy away from bidding. hahaha gold coins... if the spot price jumps after the auction ends I bet he'll say his son wanted it |
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Moderator
United States
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Guy sounds like a complete smuck not to mention a con-artist. Leave him some nasty feedback for sure. He'll continue to sell on ebay for sure and the more negative feedback he has, the better. Let me see what he has for sale ;-) This happened to me once when I won an incredible natural rainbow toned Morgan (I mean incredible!) for $26. The guy wrote me back and said it has already been sold and he doesn't have it any more. Yeah, right. This guy was a complete, well you know, and told me that I am not doing anything about it and either is ebay. See, it's real simple. All ebay has to do is offer one warning and then the second time, their history. They might sneak back in with another name and such but, these folks can't contain themselves and will be unethical once again because that's just who they are. swcoin.ecrater.com
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08/02/2009 10:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1807 Posts |
I think my feedback says it.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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still say, as ebay also does, You and the other party entered into a legal contract that both parties must fulfill.... what would happen if YOU would not have paid? lats assume that with another seller... just assume you changed your mind to pay for it because you have found out the price you bid and won it at is toooooo high? What will the seller do ? and what will ebay do? Persdonally I think something is missing in the story.. No offense meant... but usually ebay and PAYPAL come down hard when called on in such situations. I am not an ebay friend, but perhaps ebay procedures were not followed by the buyer? HHB |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1807 Posts |
So if I bid on the coin and at the end of the auction I payed for it, WHAT else am I suppose to do that you question my procedures? He thanked me for my payment in one e-mail and then in another asked me to agree on canceling the transaction. Maybe you missed some of the story.
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United States
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To offer something for sale, then change your mind at the last minute is just plain shady to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
532 Posts |
All sorts of ways to get downright dirty on ebay. I wont go into detail as it is just plain nasty. The higher ground is just to ignore him and move on. Your feedback is the Jolly Roger for others who think of bidding on higher end items. Be at least happy you paid via paypal and if push came to shove they would enforce a refund. Many are not so lucky. |
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