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Valued Member
United States
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If you compare buy power of 1980's (what our dollars would buy) against what it buys now- and use that equation - then the math people, the swiss banks, hong kong and all the rest have said that gold will and must hit $2000.00 per ounce to be up with inflation-within the foreseeable future. Therefore- all these other factors- crude, metals etc will rise- Why? Supply and demand rules. When you have short supply-whether it is artificial or not- The prices go up- and up.-- It does appear that Gold will continue to rise in spite of all our speculation- So who is paying these high prices- A forum member just said, he was going to hold off-- When Gold jumps 16.00 at a time like it did today- it does make one want to hold off--These Big Time dealers are saying they can't keep up with it- and I believe it- Because I have had an order in with a dealer whom I deal regularly-(He is big-time) and his filling my order took 7 days longer than usual this time. Some one is buying. World conditions are in greater turmoil now than say a decade ago- and this may be a factor in why more people are turning to gold- They have more faith in it now than during the days of Jimmy Carter in our other Iranian fiasco. $Finally 720.10 today- We are all watching-and wondering- Our society has already taken the attitude that Money is no Object-- why? because of the plastic mentality Credit cards- SO here is where your inflation really started- and the banks love it- America has become slaves to the Plastic Card- (Not I) but the majority. Yet, some are waking up- and they now want Gold to help them through a (maybe Crisis) well enough said. My nickel aint worth a dime anymore-- so I will quit here. Dewey
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Who is buying ? Well for one it is reported miner Barrick decided to take out like 4.5 millions of ounces of its edge book in Q1 2006 Those speculators and miners with short edges are burning ; either buy now or get burned even more buying tomorrow
Then there is the goldfunds ETF's who may be starting to get some intrest from pension funds and investment funds
Then there is China and Russia who have billions of paper dollars and both stated they want more gold
Then there is the savvy Indians and all the others who buy 999 jewellry not to wear but as an investment
And soon there will be the second wave of investors and last J6P
The figures to equate to the 1980 top vary between 2200 and 2250 $ per ounce
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Its not only Jewellry, Bullion Rounds, bars and coins...
But I can't afford them. :)
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Pillar Of The Community
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The only people I know wanting jewelry are those who will pay nothing to get it from you so they can melt it down! I have NEVER looked at jewelry as an investment and never will. Next on my NO NO list would be diamonds as they are always worth a fortune when you are buying but try and sell them later? We must face the facts in hard times gold, silver, cigarettes and booze will all be winners when it comes to bartering!!!
Oh, and one other item will hold its value VERY well.....guns and ammo!!!
Edited by crystalk64 05/12/2006 09:03 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1541 Posts |
Most Asians are very interested in jewelry, in Sri Lanka you don't get 1oz coins but if you want to accumulate it'll be the sovereigns and that it also mostly collected in order to use them for jewelry in the future.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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quote: Originally posted by crystalk64
The only people I know wanting jewelry are those who will pay nothing to get it from you so they can melt it down! I have NEVER looked at jewelry as an investment and never will. Next on my NO NO list would be diamonds as they are always worth a fortune when you are buying but try and sell them later? We must face the facts in hard times gold, silver, cigarettes and booze will all be winners when it comes to bartering!!!
Oh, and one other item will hold its value VERY well.....guns and ammo!!!
I can add another I have a cupboard full of real Cuban Cigars and for the real coinnoiseur I also have French Napoleon Brandy ( Remy Martin ) 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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quote: Originally posted by crystalk64
I have NEVER looked at jewelry as an investment and never will.
One of the things, perhaps the biggest thing to worry about when it comes to silver, is people selling off their little hoards when the price gets high enough. Lots-O-little hoards are going to become a mountain if they do. I don't think anyone really knows how much silver bullion is socked away by people who just bought it because it was cheap. Or how much of it is in jewelry. Hopefully, alot of it is in jewelry. The high fabrication costs and insane markups might keep it from going into the melting pot. Especially if the jewelry was a gift. Like Brandy for example, she wears a braided chain made of the finest silver from the North of Spain? It was a gift. She'll never sell it. Noooo, not Brandy, she'll never sell that chain.  "Yeah, Brandy used to watch his eyes When he told his sailor stories She could feel the ocean fall & rise She saw its ragin' glory.." Brandy--Looking Glass
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Valued Member
United States
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O my, Am I guilty of bringing this thread back earlier in the week? In any event, looks like the markets were cashing in these last 2 days--AND I mean cashing in and taking profits--My 401 account got hammered these last 2 days-- GOLD tho stood up, AND my prediction held--Closed today @$710.50-- Lost a whopping $9.60--amazing--otherwise, & even so, my prediction blew by 700-- What does next week hold fer ya? eh? 
Edited by CiScO 05/12/2006 8:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2365 Posts |
Hey CiScO.......I think I'll let you keep this thread going! I'll chime in with my 2 cents (bad pun) worth here and there. Our 401 is in Gold Bonds.....not too shabby a week!
As for $800......not for a few weeks (maybe, sort of, uh, who knows)!!!!!!!! I do know one thing.....it'll get there!
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Pillar Of The Community
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Shatsi I think the FIRST year buffalo gold will hold its value and I don't see tons of them being struck due to the price of gold at this time. They have already announced the 2007 offerings will include the 1/10 ounce, 1/4 ounce, 1/2 ounce and the full ounce so waiting 6 months might be a good thing or, should gold keep rising, a bad thing? I really don't think you will ever see $300 gold again! I actually bought a little yesterday as I really feel what we are seeing right now may be the last "low" prices for a long time. I do think the climb will continue and the little guy will get squeezed pretty hard! The important thing is to follow your instincts and your heart and enjoy what ever you do purchase! We can all worry about profit and loss some years down the road!
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
2078 Posts |
My photograding friend ( who apart from being an ex coindealer is a programmer by profession ) and myself have put together a timing cycle system ( I have been teaching statistics for a while ) According to this system the gold high if it is not in yet will be in by may 26 th with 98.75 % certainty on a left hand tail bell shape curve and 14 cycles sofar . The point however is that this cycle is part of a monthly cycle that will not peak right now but later. So the weather prediction is as follows A short term high by 26 th latest followed by a sharp short down move to scare everybody or just a 35 days sideways to bore everybody to death Our system does not allow price predictions but for that there are the good ole Edwards and Magee supplemented with the good ole Fibonnaci retracement levels or just a 200 day moving average 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Interesting system Ageka! There seems to be so many variables (i.e. headlines and World markets), but each of them has already influenced the stats so far that you may have quite a system here. I'll cheer you on for the 26th to maintain/close at or above $800!
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Well it looks like the short term top was in on friday Now I will be looking at the next short term bottom as a buing oportunity  800 will have to wait for the next cycle high  If the shortterm high was in on friday the cumulative probability was only 17.5% But that is what is up with statistics they are only probabilities
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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quote: Originally posted by crystalk64
Dogman I would wait until June and buy two of the FIRST ever pure gold Indian/Buffalo one ounce gold pieces that will be released then. Next year they will be doing the same coin in tenth, quarter and half ounce as well but do believe these 2006 ounce coins will be a good buy due to the fact they are the first 24K gold from the U.S. and they will only be around for 6 months before the date must change. I would give it a little thought!
Just curious... Any reason for buying 2?
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Pillar Of The Community
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I usually buy two of everything, when I can afford it, and then should that particular coin explode on the market I can sell one off and, many times, make enough money to provide the first one free or nearly so. With the market being so hot right now almost everything across the board has risen in value so I continue to play the game.
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