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Pillar of the Community
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nickelsearcher,
Been pretty much offline for a few days; was eager to get back and check out this thread! I don't have an accurate enough scale to weigh my Henning. But I really want to find a copy of that Dwight Stuckey book. Checked all over, with no luck.
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This is quote from a post on this topic,
"As far as finding regular mint produced coins on Henning nickel planchets, I don't think this will happen. According to a letter by Superintendent of the Mint Mrs. Rae V. Biester, All of the confiscated planchets (and coins found in the Cooper Creek) were turned over to the US Mint by the Secret Service and the mint melted them down to convert the metal into the proper nickel specifications then produced coinage ingots with it. So Hennings planchets were used by the Mint but in an indirect way "
Just a thought, stranger things have happened, let's say those planchets were used as they were, ( we all know the Mint does what it can to save a buck ), with that picture this, if that was true, you could say some of the nickels out there were produced with overweight planchets and were struck with the Mints own dies.
This is IMO, a more than probable possibility, so when looking for these nickels, you might find some very well struck pieces, could be,we know NO cents were struck on bronze planchets, it was also written. We all know things are not always what is written or factually true when it comes to the Mint, acually most anything is possible when the Mint is involved, this is just my opinion....
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Great topic and lots of interesting information. Just one stupid question: What do you call a Chinese Copy of a Henning Nickel?  Terrell |
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Valued Member
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A Hennyang?
Edited by coinseeker
09/20/2009 08:10 am
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Thanks pyrbob for the detailed reply ..... we all appreciate your input since it seems like you have the most Henning's.
Soooo ... to summarize to this point ...
1. The possible Henning dates are '39, '44, '46', '47 and '53
2. The 1944 is obvious since it lacks the large mint mark
3. The hole at the bottom of the "R" in "Pluribus" is a definite indicator of a Henning.
4. Weight alone can not be used as an indicator .... pyrbob reports a range of 4.7 grams to 5.4 grams for his Henning.
5. Henning lack detail and often lack full rims.
6. The Henning surfaces look porus.
7. Some Henning have raised dots 'pimples' inside the "M" of "UNUM"
What did I miss?
Who else can add to this?
David
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't think we should dismiss the possibility that any Jefferson dated before Henning's arrest could be the sixth. It is reported he made these in the year 1954.
On the other hand, might it be possible that the 6 th Henning that has not been yet found but believed to exist might be just another 1944 with a different pair of dies.
( With hole in R and without hole? )
If somebody does find a different date than those we know about, I hope it happens here first. It would be quite the find.
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Rest in Peace
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Wheezy, you make a good point. The sixth Henning could be another die of one of the five known dates. Because of the abundance of 1944's, this date would make the most sense. But don't confuse the obverse dies with the reverse dies. We are looking for the sixth obverse die. It doesn't matter which reverse die it is matched up with. It's just by identifying the reverse without the hole in the R gives us a better chance of finding the other dates (if this reverse die is paired with the other dates).
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think we can completely forget about using weight as a way of looking for Henning's or genuine coins struck on Henning blanks. I think everyone has been looking at the official weight of a genuine coin being 5 grams and they have been forgetting that even the mint has a tolerance range on that 5 gram weight. And it is a pretty big tolerance, .194 grams. That means that a genuine US Mint made five cent piece can weigh anywhere between 4.8 and 5.2 grams and still be considered the correct weight. And even with the US Mint you will find some genuine coins a little above or below tolerance. This means that the genuine and the Henning nickels actually fall into almost exactly the same weight ranges.
The Dwight Stuckey book is a good one, I'm lucky enough to have a copy. Don't know where it is right now. Last time I remember seeing it it was on the dining room table....maybe under the table.
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Edited by rockdude
10/01/2009 2:58 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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rock on dude! Looks like it came from the same die mine did. Henning? We really don't know for sure but I suspect it is since there were different reverse dies. https://goccf.com/t/53117#420071 |
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Pillar of the Community
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That is one poorly struck nickel. What year is it? 44?
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Pillar of the Community
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That is one poorly struck nickel. What year is it? 44? That's correct. |
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I have to say 'yes indeed' ..... from what we have all learned the defintive Henning is the 1944 war nickle without the mint mark.
Congratulations ..... I hope to find one someday
David
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I hope to find one someday You will nickelsearcher, I just know it. |
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Rock On Rockdude!
I would say 99% chance a Henning; any 1944 Jeffersons with no MM pretty much have to be one.
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