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Which 1861 3 Cent Silver Coin Do You Prefer?

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 Posted 10/12/2009  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
The second one has better eye appeal to me.
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 Posted 10/12/2009  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin Vaillancourt to your friends list
I also think the second one is more appealing
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 Posted 10/12/2009  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the first set of pictures, the coin appears "flat" in the second set.
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 Posted 10/12/2009  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jprine to your friends list
I am partial to toned coins, no. 1.
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 Posted 10/13/2009  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list
I'm afraid I like the cleaned version.
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 Posted 10/13/2009  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Leave it to me to be a Debbie Downer
I do not like either one. The first set makes the coin look like it has gone beyond simple toning to the point of appearing stained and discolored and the second set makes the coin look dull and lifeless.
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 Posted 10/13/2009  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Just FYI to all:

These are indeed the same coin.

I noticed it had good details (under all the crust) and bought it with the intention of using my wife's jewelry cleaner on it to see what I got. (I know, I know. Cleaning is bad. You don't have to write the required angry letters). I dipped for 10 seconds, rinsed under clean water, then blotted dry with a soft cloth.

I was pleased with the results. I do like the post-dip coin better. I think it shows much more details and is much closer to the idea of a freshly minted coin.

That's why I posted this topic. I was interested in everyone's opinion. (I have to admit it though, I was nervous to post it however, knowing the feeling we all have about cleaning coins...)


I do not recommend cleaning coins!
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 Posted 10/13/2009  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I don't like toned coins but I like the top picture better because the bottom one looks washed out to me
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 Posted 10/14/2009  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenacious to your friends list
I find the top one interesting, and the bottom one boring.

But to each his own.
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 Posted 10/14/2009  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
They both look good, the lower clean one looks just slightly better, will settle for any
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 Posted 10/14/2009  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownas22 to your friends list
I like the first pic the most, original state, some nice color (I like toning). Personally I stay away from all numismatic cleaning/ cleaned/ or to be cleaned.
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 Posted 10/14/2009  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list
I like the first picture better too as I'm a toner kinda guy, though the second one looks all right as well. Personally, I would have chosen a much less expensive coin for experimenting, but what ultimately matters is what makes Moe happy since it is HIS coin.
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 Posted 10/14/2009  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
I like the toned coin images because it looks natural and also hides those darker spots. The second image makes those jump right out and I just don't like spotted coins.
I also see some traces of luster on the toned image I think but they are gone forever on the dipped coin.
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 Posted 10/14/2009  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list
I prefer the second but wouldn't have cleaned the first one. Not a criticism, I just couldn't make it look as good as you did. This little exercise also makes me a bit nervous because I couldn't tell that the second one was cleaned. I suppose that's one of the things that comes with practice and experience. For me to spot a cleaned coin it has to be pretty obvious but I'm learning more and more everyday. Thanks for posting the before and after!
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 Posted 10/14/2009  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I dipped for 10 seconds, rinsed under clean water, then blotted dry with a soft cloth.


That was 2-1/2 times too long for the desired result. 5 seconds total, over the life of the coin, is the absolute outside limit for a result that *could* remain undetectable for the future. 3-4 seconds would have removed all of the toning while leaving a coin which "seemed" original.

Just sayin'.
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