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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
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how about olive oil immersion for 20 days? I tried that with copper coins but just couldnt wait for the 30days, went and cleaned with soft toothbrush after 1 week. the copper coins were ok, the green gunk is gone but some of the black stain still remained. overall I would rate 10-15% better looking than before
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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
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Hi svslav, per your question - dremel wire wheel is a 3/4" diameter brush wheel on a hand held spindle and drivemotor, rotating at 5,000rpm other models at 10,000rpm. I use it (nylon brush/10,000rpm) on conddemed and hopeless coins with black tar encrustation result of being submerged in tropical rivers. It has to be used with a 6x-8x magnifying glass and a very steady hand. It's a trade off between having an untradable coin that is black, unreadable, unknown metal disc and an untradable coin that is cleaned, shiny coin of known metal but with microscopic and faint scratches on it's surface. it's a last case move before throwing the coin in the trash bucket. hope that info helps
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Dremel wire wheel? That idea sent shivers up my spine. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
628 Posts |
Eurocoin, I've never heard of the ketchup bath solution. Sounds interesting and worth a try, at least a test.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:There was a recent thread about a Dremel meeting a Indian Head penny. Check the results, you will not place a Dremel so close to a coin ever again. You appear to be serious. I really hope you know it was supposed to be funny. You know a thing called a joke.   Quote: Goo-Gone, elbow grease, and a supply of toothpicks will remove a lot of gunk and most verdigris, but be prepared for a lighter-colored coin under gunk. Now that one isn't supposed to be funny, maybe. Hopefully no one really tries that. May as well go back to a Dremel. Quote: how about olive oil immersion for 20 days? I tried that with copper coins but just couldnt wait for the 30days, went and cleaned with soft toothbrush after 1 week. the copper coins were ok, the green gunk is gone but some of the black stain still remained. overall I would rate 10-15% better looking than before Actually I've heard that if really bad coins are left in Olive Oil for several thousand years the corrosion will come off. I'd try that one but not sure I could wait more than a few hundred years. And of course you do realize that not all Olive Oils are the same so which type, brand, purity, origin, etc are you suggesting? Why not just suggest battery Acid. I know that would work and very little left of the coins to complain about.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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To make a short story longer, here are a pile of coins that have been through extensive cleaning processes for numerous reasons.  Hopefully the photo is clear enough. All of these coins were really a mess for Numismatic purposes. Some, the Nickel, were highly polished with something that made them look like mirrors. Same with the SLQ but not as shinny. All the Cents were covered with dirt, grime, corrosions of who knows what. The Large cent was the worst since it was so corroded it was noticably potted with holes. As a starter all of these were placed in Acetone in a glass jar individually of course. Then the Nickels were placed in laquer thinner. All for just a few minutes. These did very little except the Nickels did tone down somewhat. After this these were individually placed in Alcohol, then rinsed in hot distilled water and now all dunked into a baking soda/distilled water solution and very, very lightly rubbed. This process strectched out for several weeks a little at a time. Finally all were starting to look a bit like normal ocoins to some degree. Then finally all were placed in a glass jar, left on a picnic table in my yard where the Sun could hit it most of the day. Finally a few days ago all were taken out and placed on a kitchen window sill and this is the final results. Note for some reason the Large Cent turned Red. Not just a slight Red, but a real Red. The Nickels came out the best so far I think except I'm really proud of the SLQ's results. One of the Cents really still looks bad. Remember that cleaning coins is not a intelligent thing to do normally but these were really already ruined at the beginning.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thank you, Nic, it does sound terrible. Some tool are just not meant to be in the coin collector's toolbox
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: I really hope you know it was supposed to be funny. You know a thing called a joke. "Reverse psychology" can sometimes have dire, unpredictable results. No doubt, when we warned that guy NOT to clean his 1871 IHC, we actually encouraged him to Dremel his coin to oblivion. 
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Valued Member
Finland
294 Posts |
Quote: Eurocoin, I've never heard of the ketchup bath solution. Sounds interesting and worth a try, at least a test.
Actually I tried ketchup first time a few weeks ago and amazed how well it took bad colours off. Before ketchup I tried acetone and demineralized water for the same coins -> no effect. Unfortunately I didn't realize to take the "before and after" -photos 
Edited by Eurocoin 10/30/2009 3:01 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:
Actually I tried ketchup first time a few weeks ago and amazed how well it took bad colours off. Before ketchup I tried acetone and demineralized water for the same coins -> no effect. Unfortunately I didn't realize to take the "before and after" -photos
The reason stuff like Ketchup does work to a degree is it contains an acid. You could get those results from Lemon Juice, Lime Juice, Vinegar or any product that contains an acid. Acetone is not intended to be an acidic substance but many, many items we eat are acidic. Note the color of Tomatoes. The redder they are the more acidic they are which is why so many now have turned to yellow, orange and even white tomatoes. The less red, the less acid. The worse thing about using Ketchup on coins is you may end up placing that coin on a burger and eating it.
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Valued Member
United States
303 Posts |
Quote: You appear to be serious. I really hope you know it was supposed to be funny. You know a thing called a joke. I wasn't sure if the person who suggested using a dremel, I just wanted to bring it up. Can't really tell (sometimes) if they are joking unless they say so :) The person was 13 years old (if actual age). I have to admit, I remember when I was a kid, I cleaned coins with lemon juice and an eraser. Mostly on an old encrusted V nickel; I even used something to scrape it with. Good thing I didn't have a Dremel (I think they weren't invented yet, around 1997?) and some expensive coins, only the common stuff.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
1156 Posts |
Thanks mrh757! great link! best cleaning procedure of before and after I've seen, specially for copper and silver coins
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Valued Member
United States
117 Posts |
Ketchup does work, but it will completely strip the coin. They may get "red-looking," but will have absolutely no mint luster, and have a dull shine. I've used it on a few ugly copper lincolns, and have decided that it's not worth it. It MIGHT be worth it on a foreign coin, just to bring out an interesting design. Joe
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Pillar of the Community
Philippines
1156 Posts |
yes on that, it has the same effect as vinigar
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