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Odd Coin? (Id: Card Game Counter)

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 Posted 11/26/2009  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
I can see no numbers on the first pic and only letters on the 2nd pic. Yes a bigger pic with closeup on the letters would be needed for your post



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 Posted 11/26/2009  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
Here's the reverse of a one UK pound, that looks mighty similar to the first second pic:


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I can see no numbers on the first pic and only letters on the 2nd pic.

There's a motto on the ribbon on the first one as well. I'd like to know what it is.
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 Posted 11/27/2009  02:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Whatever it is, it's not a coin. It's probably a card game counter.

The arms and the motto, "Dieu et mon Droit" (French for "God and my right") on both the pound coin and the mystery item are those of Great Britain.

I can't make out enough detail on the other side to identify the other arms. It's got a turreted crown of a city, so it's probably the arms of the city where the object was made.
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 Posted 11/27/2009  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Texan connection to your friends list
Thats the same as the pound cpoin but it doesent say pound Ill get a better pic of the other side, It apperas to Have 3 sail boats in the middle
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 Posted 11/28/2009  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Texan connection to your friends list
Better pics

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 Posted 11/28/2009  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list
Looks to me as a coat of arms of city of Paris (an older version). Here's what they have now


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 Posted 11/28/2009  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
what type metal is it?
it appears not worn out at top areas where it should show signs of wear, and background around the letters show it was not die punched like a coin, could it be a checker piece? just a guess

it's not a coin
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 Posted 12/03/2009  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Texan connection to your friends list
Its copper I'm thinking a old game piece of some kind.

odd to have france on one side and British on the other side
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 Posted 12/03/2009  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
yes - it could be a piece from an old checker board game, France one side with British on the other
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 Posted 12/03/2009  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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Its copper I'm thinking a old game piece of some kind.

I'd agree - a form of jeton or card game counter.

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odd to have france on one side and British on the other side

Odd, but not entirely unusual. These jetons were often made in Germany or the Netherlands. If they put a French design on one side and a British design on the other, they could export a single jeton type to both countries, rather than having to make separate types for each destination.

I have a jeton with similar dual nationality: it's got Queen Victoria on one side and the French emperor Napoleon III on the other.
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This message is for "Texas Connection". I also have the coin that has "Dieu Droit Et Mon" on 1 side. Have you any info about it yet? Thanks. I'm new to this forum and unsure if I'm doing this post correctly.
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 Posted 12/13/2009  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
You're doing fine, glejeune, and welcome to the forum.

As has been pointed out in this thread, it's not a coin, but some kind of "card counting token", the 19th century equivalent of our "play money". Such items would have been sold with decks of cards, and used as gambling substitutes in places where gambling with actual money was illegal or socially unacceptable.

What does yours have on the other side?
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The image is exactly as shown above under "better pics" from Texas connection. Has coat of arms with sailboat/s on opposite. So it's an interesting piece, probably from 1800's, more than likely a game/gambling piece, right?
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That's our best educated guess. Though we haven't found an exact match on the various databases such as UKDFD, it's the best possible explanation of why it has the coat of arms of Paris on one side and the coat of arms of Britain on the other, and no other text or date.
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odd to have france on one side and British on the other side
ahhh "A Tale of Two Cities" sorry I couldn't resist
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