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One Dollar Coin Vs One Dollar Currency ?

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 Posted 03/23/2005  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collect4fun to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer
... One it is easier to carry. This is true for 99% of the people. Yes waitresses and dancers and a few others will have issues, ...


ND,

How do you know about dancers and one dollar bills ?
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 Posted 03/23/2005  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy29 to your friends list
My understanding is that much of the paper used in currency comes from a company in Massachusetts which has pretty effectively bought legislators to block any talk of eliminating the $1 FRN.
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 Posted 03/23/2005  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list
I am with ND...it is soooooooooooooooooooooo disheartening trying to convince our lawmakers that what we are stating makes too much sense.
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 Posted 03/23/2005  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
The private company that makes the "paper" used for currency has to re-bid the contract every four years. However, since the paper is one of the tightest secrets known to man, the same company keeps getting the contract. Just another protected monopoly.
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 Posted 03/23/2005  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
Maybe the the halves should be discontinued. They are rarely circulated anyways and there seems to be no intrest in them exept for collectors.

David
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 Posted 03/23/2005  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Speedy to your friends list
Well...my pick of all coins are halves but not the half that they are minting now...I think if the Feds would try and make a go at it they could make a good half and a dollar coin...
Speedy
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 Posted 03/23/2005  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

The private company that makes the "paper" used for currency has to re-bid the contract every four years. However, since the paper is one of the tightest secrets known to man, the same company keeps getting the contract. Just another protected monopoly.



Don't even get me started. We as a country state that we favor free trade, yet we pay way, way over world price for sugar. Does it at least create jobs- no. we import Carribean stoop labor to harvest cane in FL, pollute the everglades doing it (an ecosytem which exists nowhere else on the planet)and only 3 major companies reap most of the profit. Yet sugar tariffs remain. Funny, those same companies are huge political contributors...


Back to numismatics-
Dollar coin good. Especially when you consider that in terms of buying power, it is worth less than a quarter was in 1964.
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 Posted 03/25/2005  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
In 1966 Australia changed to decimal currency. This included a one and two dollar bill (banknote). It took until 1984 for the government to change from paper currency to coin. In 1984 the Australians canged to a one dollar coin now paper bank notes are collectors items. It was another four years before the 2 dollar note was changed to coin and in 1992 paper was done away with and the Polymer note was introduced.

Point being made - if you make it they will spend it- if you take away all other options.
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 Posted 03/25/2005  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bromac to your friends list
This subject has been pretty well covered but I might as well add my thoughts.It is absolutely true that for a coin of over one dollar to be used regularly in circulation the paper alternative needs to be removed.
In Canada the one dollar coin was introduced in 1987 and the two dollar coin in 1996.There are many young clerks and cashiers who have never seen or can't remember seeing one and two dollar bills in circulation. I can't remember anyone complaining about pants or purses being weighed down with coins.
My real point here concerns the two dolar coin. Introduced to replace the two dollar bill in 1996 was a bi-metal coin.For those not familiar with it I have included a scan.You would think in the nine years since the introduction of the loon dollar that people would have learned to accept a new coin. But there seems to be a resistance to change.In the first few weeks following its introduction there were all kind of reports of the bi-metal coin separating. We heard "its no good", "we can't use it", it will never work".So now nine years later the coin is still in use and I have never personally seen one come apart nor do I know anyone who has.Either the first few coins had a problem which has long since been solved or the coins" fell apart" with some drastic mechanical assistance.The success of these coins shows that in spite of some automatic initial resistance it was and still is a very good idea.

Bill

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 Posted 03/25/2005  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list
Hello Bromac and Welcome! As you can see this is a touchy subject here. Take away the choices and the problem would fade away in a few years. I have vacationed in Canada many times and had no problem adapting to the coins. I love the bi-clad coin and kept a few for that reason. Again Welcome!!!!
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 Posted 03/25/2005  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
I have heard many view points on this subject and subcribe to the fact that a dollar coin will never circulate in this country unless 2 conditions exist.

1. We discontinue the use of the $1.00 bill

2. Force the banking indusrty to distribute them.

Currently the banking industry is on a major push to discontinue the use of all coins. They are attempting to push us into a electronic society. They are now in a mode where the don't process your check but convert it into an electronic transfer. Problem is they also protected themselves from error by making you go into negotiatons to get any money back that THEY errored in taking. Why people are accepting this I don't know. Just be ready for the results.

catman
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 Posted 04/07/2005  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by bromac

This subject has been pretty well covered but I might as well add my thoughts.It is absolutely true that for a coin of over one dollar to be used regularly in circulation the paper alternative needs to be removed.
In Canada the one dollar coin was introduced in 1987 and the two dollar coin in 1996.There are many young clerks and cashiers who have never seen or can't remember seeing one and two dollar bills in circulation. I can't remember anyone complaining about pants or purses being weighed down with coins.
My real point here concerns the two dolar coin. Introduced to replace the two dollar bill in 1996 was a bi-metal coin.For those not familiar with it I have included a scan.You would think in the nine years since the introduction of the loon dollar that people would have learned to accept a new coin. But there seems to be a resistance to change.In the first few weeks following its introduction there were all kind of reports of the bi-metal coin separating. We heard "its no good", "we can't use it", it will never work".So now nine years later the coin is still in use and I have never personally seen one come apart nor do I know anyone who has.Either the first few coins had a problem which has long since been solved or the coins" fell apart" with some drastic mechanical assistance.The success of these coins shows that in spite of some automatic initial resistance it was and still is a very good idea.

Bill





Not to mention that the loonie and the toonie are great nicknames.
Thanks to Bromac, I have a loonie. Still working on the toonie

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 Posted 04/08/2005  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add knowtracks to your friends list
Originally Posted by Catman,
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Quote;
Currently the banking industry is on a major push to discontinue the use of all coins. They are attempting to push us into a electronic society. They are now in a mode where the don't process your check but convert it into an electronic transfer. Problem is they also protected themselves from error by making you go into negotiatons to get any money back that THEY errored in taking. Why people are accepting this I don't know.
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This to me is a major problem in this lawyer driven society we live in. Nobody is responsible any more. It's always someone else's fault, the tobacco co's, Mc Donalds hot coffee, add infinity...
The Post Office isn't even responsible for your mail anymore, unless you buy their insurance.
Insurance, now there's a good one,pay me regularly & nothing will happen to your stuff. Legalized extortion
OK I guess I'm done venting.
Dave
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 Posted 04/08/2005  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list
Thata boy Dave...! Hang in there guy were with.

catman
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 Posted 04/08/2005  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list
Knowtracks,

The post office is the largest private company (monopoly) in the world. They are protected by the United States government. A federal offense to mess with the mail.

Now you mention insurance. Ever file a claim? You have a better chance of winning the powerball. They take the money and make every excuse in the world why they don't pay.

NO company will insure or ship coins. Shocking huh? Yet everyone of them work the coin shows like it is the only game in town. The USPS even have booths at all the major shows. Yet they don't ship coins. Must take government logic to make sense.
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