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 Posted 01/18/2010  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list
Let me know what you find out
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 Posted 01/18/2010  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Hmm...I was unaware of this coin, so I pulled an image off Heritage--slabbed by PCGS:

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Then I enlarged the ebay coin as much as feasible and compared alignment of digits:

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Was only 1 reverse die used for this strike?
Edited by DVCollector
01/18/2010 01:32 am
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 Posted 01/18/2010  02:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list
The surfaces of the ebay coin see to have raised dots- especially to the right of the wreath. The highly magnified picture seems to show both the raised dots and a very wierd pattern of lines and dots around the raised letters. Check the shiny areas between the letters on the Obv. for pitting, and close to the nose, also around the denticles/dots below the rims. I do not trust this one. It looks similar to copies I have seen.
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 Posted 01/18/2010  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
This is the same seller who tried to sell a two-tailed twoonie a couple of months back.
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 Posted 01/18/2010  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list
I don't understand this seller. If I had a coin that valauble that I was going to sell, I would have it slabbed by one of the major appraisiers to get the most money for my sale. He does not mention anywhere in his listing that the coin was appraised. With all the Chinese fakes going around, I would never buy such a coin without proper ICCS or CCCS paperwork.
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 Posted 01/18/2010  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
11 foot pole required
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 Posted 01/18/2010  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list
And that's being generous...
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 Posted 01/18/2010  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
probably made by the C.H.I.N.A corporation...
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 Posted 01/20/2010  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list
The bidding has passed $3000 USD with 4 days to go.
He also has a $5000 USD buy-it-now.

I am sure he could get a lot more than $5000 if he bother to spend $15 to get it certifed.
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 Posted 01/22/2010  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list
your 2 looks better than mine but it is still strange why not ask him to certify or you do the certification and ask for a return if it is not real?
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 Posted 01/23/2010  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
People certify $8 MS-63 coins on a regular basis. When I see any of the more expensive coins selling raw these days, it's an automatic "no thanks". People that got a hold of the fakes will not be able to get them certified and will be forced to try and sell them raw, just like this listing. You've got to be out of your mind to take the word of a guy who sold two twoonie halves glued together as a great "rarity" to be a source of numismatic knowledge.
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 Posted 01/24/2010  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
hello,
this person seems to have a lot of certified coins.
WHY NOT this one?
AND he only has a 3 day return policy which does not give enough time for certification and if needed to return it. I believe timing would also exceed filing a dispute with Paypal, but may be wrong.
If he would spend $15 on certification, or even $50, he would get a lot more......it is very suspicious.......
I have a certified, by CCCS as a VG 10, authentic 1921 5 cent piece.
I am willing to part with it for 5,800, or perhaps a close offer....
if there is any interest, a PM would be appreciated..
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 Posted 01/25/2010  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list
The auction ended at $3,850.00 USD.
I looked at his other auctions and most of his common coins under $10 were all ICCS certfied (mentioned in the listing title) but not his flagship 1921 5 cent silver coin.
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01/25/2010 07:32 am
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 Posted 01/25/2010  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
I emailed the seller before end of auction, asking him about his 3 day return policy.
he wrote back he would refund all monies if it turns out the coin is a fake and a recognized certification service would provide that information on their letterhead and signature.
he knows NONE of them will do so, as they leave themselves open for a law suit if they make that statement, they can not proof it is a fake, they can only say that in their opinion it can not be graded.
I also asked him in TWO separate emails WHY he would not have it certified.... he did NOT address that question at all.!
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 Posted 01/25/2010  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
From the same seller,another 1921, http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTREMELY-RARE-...-5_W0QQitemZ330398721035QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item4ced4c640b
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