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Counterfeit Coins

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 Posted 02/18/2010  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
I agree, but when I started this thread it was not only to acknowledge the problem, but to see examples of counterfeits to school myself up, and for others to see examples so we would not be spending money on KNOWN examples, and to educate ourselves on how to tell the difference.. However one member stated(and I have heard it before)
there's some kind of copy write or something about permission to post pictures of them? ISN'T THAT KEEPING US IN THE BLIND? I mean they can make them why can't we exploit the knowledge and pictures of what they are producing? Yes I know too, I followed as many of you did, the secret cam pics of
"inside the Chinese presses" that's not the correct title but you all know what I mean...... It seems you can put it online, but only a few pictures have I seen when asking the question.......and many have coins that have become known now to be fakes.....Is there some kind of
permission or something that keeps a real flow info and pictures identifying there coins and how to detect them?
OR
is it in fact if we talk about them then they can make them even better? and let the public suffer? for the endgame........
What is the truth about this all
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 Posted 02/18/2010  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list
I will pull 3 fakes I have out and post them sometime tomorrow. You are right!! knowing what to look for is always the )KEY)
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 Posted 02/18/2010  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
Thanks......and check the copy write thing or mayby someone can chime in if its NOT OK......Gene
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 Posted 02/18/2010  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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However one member stated(and I have heard it before)
there's some kind of copy write or something about permission to post pictures of them?


Somone above suggested the US govt. should copyright their coins. I have no idea what good thing that could accomplish. The real ones aren't copyrighted, and neither are the fakes.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list
It's not just coins, the Chinese counterfeit everything from ladies handbags to ink pens. It's a huge PITA for the companies that actually make the items being faked.
The PRC government doesn't give a rip. As long as it brings money into the country, they don't care about the markets they flood with cheap shoddy junk, fake items or even items that harm the health of the user.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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It's not just coins, the Chinese counterfeit everything from ladies handbags to ink pens. It's a huge PITA for the companies that actually make the items being faked.
The PRC government doesn't give a rip. As long as it brings money into the country, they don't care about the markets they flood with cheap shoddy junk, fake items or even items that harm the health of the user.


I'm really having a tuff time remembering the correct spelling of Duracell. Not sure anymore if that is right. I've seen Dinocell, Dinocil, Duracil, Duricell and many more.
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 Posted 02/19/2010  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list
They even counterfeit toothpaste as happened a couple of years ago with the poison Colgate.
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 Posted 02/23/2010  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list
ebay is littered with countless fakes from China. They outlawed the fake rolexes and other stuff being openly sold on the site a handful of years ago, but as a sword collector there are hundreds of fake antique swords coming from there too. Usually they have low "buy it now" prices, some only a dollar, and hundred dollar shipping charges. I don't know why people think they are getting a good deal but I have now seen people in the US that probably bought them second hand thinking they were real. heck, there are fake medals of honor coming from there too. There isn't anything that can be done about it. The only way to stop it is to punish the buyers.
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 Posted 02/23/2010  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list

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Ebay is littered with countless fakes from China.


That's not the only place littered with fakes. I buy various antiques/collectibles from antique malls to resell. In every one of these places I go I see fakes; most are identical down to the makers marks. That's only counting the types of items I know about. I'm sure there are plenty I'm not expert enough to spot.
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 Posted 02/23/2010  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list
Canada was able to stem the tide of Counterfeit coins coming from China via ebay. I find it amazing that the USA does nothing. It is your Hobby....not the politicians or Law enforcements. Chatting here in what if's and why not's will get nothing done. Just a thought.
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 Posted 02/23/2010  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tykimeister to your friends list
I think fake coins are annoying and a big problem with coin collecting, but this is really the least of the worlds problems. While in Thailand and Indonesia you could buy all kinds of counterfeit clothing; Nike, Puma, Billabong, Holister, etc. All fake items sold for a fraction of the price.

Even in India they have laws that they can make perscription drugs with the exact same ingregients as pattented drugs; they just have to make them a different way, a different process...

With issues like these going on, I think stopping counterfeit coins will never stop.
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 Posted 02/24/2010  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list
It isn't the maker's of fakes that's hard to stop.... it's those who are buying that is.

remember the fake baby milk powder in the news, from one china manufacturer year 2008? Everybody stopped buying and that stopped that fake milk powder immediately. Nobody else followed because the profits, and buyers, just wasnt there
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 Posted 02/24/2010  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list
On the baby milk fiasco, that was promptly handled by everyone; US govt., Chinese govt., importers/exporters. Swift execution of the perpetrators helped a lot. Had the trials taken place here, they wouldn't have taken place yet. It would be the typical delays, motions, high-profile lawyers, you get the drift.
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 Posted 03/08/2010  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinundrum to your friends list
Yeah, unfortunately the fakes are getting VERY good. Just this weekend at a coin show, I was shown an 09SVDb cent that was nearly perfect. MM, initials, patina, MM positioning all perfect. The weight, however, was off. I almost wanted to buy it just to have such a "good" fake. Of course, it was not marked as such...making me more apt to buy slabbed!
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 Posted 03/09/2010  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
In some instances the fakes are really funny. For example someone at a coin show showed me a Morgan dollar with an 1875 date on it. It really looked real to me. I'm waiting for the Chinese to start making Lincoln Cents with dates in the 1800's though. At flea markets lately I've seen many knives with Swastics on them and it says on the blade China. Some time ago I purchased an ORIGINAL Black Forest Hunting Knife and on the blade is had Japan on it.
It will never end with coins now that the hobby is as big as it is.
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