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Bedrock of the Community
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SCREAMING COUNTERFEIT! Get your money back ASAP!
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I have gotten the coin packaged and ready to go to the PO! Thanks for all the feedback. I knew it was wrong when I got it but all your replies validates that!
Edited by freewheel
04/10/2010 2:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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This is why I try and stay away from the bay. Especially on expensive key dates. Go thru a reputable group like Heritage.
Jim
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I guess I am learning the hard way. I have gotten some good deals on ebay but then I mainly only buy from trusted sources that I know. This coin was from an unkown source but he did have good feedback. Edited by freewheel
04/10/2010 3:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Make sure you have delivery confirmation on the return shipment. I would use signature confirmation if it were me.
I assume you have already contacted the seller also?
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the mint made special coins for the vision impaired. Who ever done that needs to change their hobby and find something that their good at. Thats terrible.
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ebay is OK if (1)he has over 1,000 feedbacks of which at least 99% are good (only God gets 100%). (2)make sure there isn't a "no returns accepted" listed, (3) make sure pictures of both sides of the coin are posted. (4)buying from "a coin dealer with a lot of sales and good feedback selling coins" is best. Took a poll of 35 dealers at a recent show and 23 of them said they also sold on the Internet with about 15 selling on ebay. Most won't reveal their user names. I recently returned 2 high priced Morgans to different dealers on ebay because they were not the coins I bid on and won. They exchanged them for much better grades than I had won. To sum it up, ebay is OK but watch yourself. I still prefer dealing with a person over buying or selling a coin. Sorry for rambling on edgman/Tom R
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Thanks, Edgeman. I'm an Ebayer and all my coins are authentic...every single one of them. One problem with accepting returns is running the risk of getting a different coin returned; particularly coin(s) within a "lot." I list as, "returns not accepted" which may impact bidders' willingness; however, via private conversations over my last four years on ebay, have return-refunded the two requests to do so. I cant say scammers and misinformed/uneducated seller are the exception to the rule on ebay. But honest sellers, private and commercial, are not exceptions to the rule. I've made my share of mistakes as a seller. Recently, I: - sold 20 (consecutive years) proof sets and carelessly overlooked that one of the coins in the earlier sets had become dislodged from the plastic issue slip - sold five sealed 1957 proof sets and (lazily) used the same picture of one envelope for all five auctions. One buyer complained his envelope did not resemble the envelope in the picture. Oops. My bad. At the end of the day; all buyers get great coins from me for what theyve (been willing to) bid. Full stop. p.s. I wouldnt need a picture of the reverse of the 14 D to decide whether it was authentic or not. Edited by j_h_s
04/11/2010 08:21 am
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edgman, Quote: " I recently returned 2 high priced Morgans to different dealers on ebay because they were not the coins I bid on and won. They exchanged them for much better grades than I had won. To sum it up, ebay is OK but watch yourself." Obviously you are following your guidelines for buying on ebay and I assume the two dealers referred to above meet that criterion and were trust worthy. The fact that they both shipped you incorrect coins to me shows intent. There are enough noobs out there buying that they can send the incorrect coin and a percentage of the time they never have to replace it. Once in a while they have to correct the "mistake" and go on down the road. I suppose that a dealer could have sold a load of BU 1959 LMC for a $1 a piece and while sorting them out make a mistake and send the wrong coin. But, when someone is buying an expensive coin, it is valuable to them, they probably only have one like it and subsequently would have good control of the coin which makes it very hard for me to understand how "they made a mistake". I would not buy from them, either. No, even guys who meet the toughest evaluation seem shady at times. Unless I know the seller personally, I am buy no coin of valuable on ebay. Jim |
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What a scary looking coin! Second I saw that date it screamed "FAKE"! It is such a shame that the hobby has come down to this; being afraid of every unslabbed key and semi-key coin that you come across. And even slabs are fake, too!  |
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Jim1953 The two coins I returned where from two of the biggest sellers on ebay. But even though they are different sellers and in different parts of the country the product is shipped from the same company for both. I was and still am apprehensive about the dealers and have made them aware of the consequences of shipping the wrong coins. They have more to lose than I do, that's probably why I got a better coin than posted. I too was a seller on ebay, you can check my seller feedback under "edgman", but quit when they made PayPal only accepted. (Brewery memorabilia only). When I bid or buy a coin the first thing I do is save a picture of the coin if I can. If not ebay saves them for 60 days. When I receive my coin I check it against the picture to make sure I got the right one. All coins have some exquisite identifying marks. As for "no returns accepted" I still wont bid on anything that carries that. Its just me, but I buy a lot of "flash memory, memory cards, camera batteries, etc" which are easily counterfeited. Of course, I also had dealers from " Coin World" try to slip me a lower graded dollar than I paid for. Sorry for rambling again edgman |
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The coin shouted fake to me also but when I posted the photos I never in my wildest dreams thought it would stir the on-going debate about good vs bad Ebayers. In any case, the coin has been returned although the seller won't refund my money till he has the coin in his hands. He didn't quibble once I told him it was fake, kind of makes me wonder if he new or not. I believe he did.
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Wow. That 14 D is not even close! Screaming counterfeit!  |
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