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Accurate Prices....graysheet Or Coin Magazines?

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 Posted 05/23/2010  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnstac to your friends list
So, FMV. I saw the Numismedia site. Just wondering what fair market value means to the collector?
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 Posted 05/23/2010  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nolawyer to your friends list
I tend to think that the magazine and Red Book prices are a bit too high, but I know some coin shops will charge even more. I know that I've seen dealers at coin shows use the grey sheet to determine prices. I use the grey sheet to help determine my maximum bid on ebay.
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 Posted 05/23/2010  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dom to your friends list
If you know specifically what you are looking for, I find teletrade and heritage auction sites really helpful. It takes nothing to register. Once you are registered you can check the price guide or the price realized and put in what you are looking for. It may give you a better idea or ballpark figure of what the buyer today is willing to pay.
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 Posted 05/23/2010  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nolawyer to your friends list
In addition to dom's suggestion, you can also check out the completed auction on ebay to see the going rate for specific coins.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list
Greysheet is the most accurate. The Red Book and magazine price are grossly overpriced in most instances. Numismedia is somewhere in the middle of the two.

Like others mentioned, completed search results on ebay and other sites are also a good reference. The best guide though is using what you know and what you want to pay as a guide.


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Those magazine figures will not be current for your week or even month.


That isn't true, since only very rare and bullion related coins change values in a week or month. Normal coins generally stay stable in price.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Grey Sheets, it's what the dealers use and it's the defacto standard.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Ditto. They have made it very convenient, too. You can download any one of their periodicals for the given period for 3.99, I believe. So, you can pick the type coin you want to review and buy only that portion.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinNut to your friends list
Graysheet is simply what dealers pay other dealers for coins. They are the wholesale prices. They are also the prices that the dealer pays YOU for your coins. In my opinion, I think the Coin Market price guide that comes out of Numismatic News is the most accurate retail guide. The Red Book and Coin Values are SOOOOO overpriced. If I am curious what a price a coin should draw, I simply look at what the previous coins have sold for on ebay.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceace to your friends list
I agree on greysheets being the closest to prices I see at shops. At the most recent coin show almost every dealer would pull out a grey sheet to figure a price (keep in mind that they didn't just quote the price exactly, but they used it to figure it for themselves, some went a little over but most were very close to greysheets).

Speaking of greysheets, I got a free trial copy a few months ago and I don't buy coins often enough to warrant a subscription, so is there a way to buy them individually once or twice a year or so? I don't need the most up-to-the-minute prices, but I also don't want to use the same one for too long and base things off inaccurate info.
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 Posted 05/24/2010  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 925dealer to your friends list
All of the above. A lot of factors to consider when buying or selling. At the Nashville Whitman coin show this weekend the greysheet was regularly referenced by both buyers and sellers. My friend did a lot of business using the grey sheet. At the same time you cannot buy and sell for no profit so buying at grey sheet and then selling at the same price does not work. There is usually a market for coins between 10-15% below AND above greysheet. Common stuff usually is lower. Rare higher quality items are usually higher.

I use a balance of greysheet, RedBook, CoinWorld, ebay and mintages to determine how I price my coins. If you price your coins too low you will run out of inventory. If you price them too high you will not sell. If you price them reasonably using a balanced approach you will do fine both when you buy AND when you sell. Remember what I continue to preach, BUY QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY AND RARE RATHER THAN COMMON. Sincerely, John Leckrone
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 Posted 05/24/2010  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I generally use a combination of greysheet/Numismedia when selling. When I go to shows, I use greysheet exclusively.
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 Posted 05/25/2010  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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is there a way to buy them individually once or twice a year or so?

http://www.greysheet.com/web_order/...ial_form.asp
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 Posted 05/25/2010  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markapsolon to your friends list
the greysheet to me is a nice way to see the bottom line of a coins pricing but you will sometimes pay a lot more than the greysheet value. This depends on the coins rarity in the market. In my opinion it is worth having the greysheet so you do not go into a transaction blind with only Coin World pricing.

It seems like everyone has a greysheet at coin shows now. The last one I went too I saw it in a lot of buyers hands.
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 Posted 05/25/2010  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceace to your friends list
Thanks for the link biokemist!
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 Posted 05/31/2010  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sukardnam to your friends list
Greysheet is the holy Grail. Period. All dealers use it and base prices on it. If you don't want a subscription ask your local dealer for last weeks or last months old sheet. Once the new one is there last weeks is useless, and not much changes.
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