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Senators Meet To Discuss Future Of The Penny

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 Posted 07/17/2010  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list
In case anyone has missed it, here is the latest article of interest to this thread.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...e-penny?bn=1

Do you think the Toronto Star has paid royalties to the RCM for the picture of the penny in the article and the newspaper? The Star is such a propaganda rag for the Liberal Party that I'm tempted to make the complaint to the RCM :)
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 Posted 07/18/2010  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
The problem isn't the penny. It's the purchasing power of the dollar. It doesn't weigh down your pockets, or fall out of your pockets, please. Which is it! This debate makes no cents at all. Pun inc.
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 Posted 07/18/2010  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list
I feel they should not only get rid of the penny, but also eliminate the nickel too!

Glenn
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 Posted 07/18/2010  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add novillero to your friends list
Not people on this thread seem to care that the govt. has devalued their currency. That is the real problem.

After the cent, it will be the nickel... then the dime... etc.
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 Posted 07/20/2010  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list
This issue has different facets, From a collectors stand point it would be disappointing for a series, let alone a denomination to become obsolete.
Secondly is the sentimental aspect, pennies are part of the culture, you know, like pennies from heaven, penny loafers,penny candy it's part of us. Like loosing a limb.
Value in 1921 compared to today -- 25 cents?,it's, in blunt terms, insignificant. Take the Timmies test , 6 quarters gets you a small coffee, or 3 rolls of pennies.Go to Starbucks you need someone to help carry them, coffee was a nickle in 1921. It's reality despite the sentiment.
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 Posted 07/20/2010  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stunet to your friends list
I lived in France in the 70's and there were still vestiges of days when they devalued the currency by the factor of 100. 100 francs equaled 1 franc. There were still old style centimes hanging around, tiny little coins like scrapes of tin valued at a fraction of a new centime. But in the end it made more sense.

You don't loose the penny, you shift the currency. Even if Canada were to devalue the currency by a factor of 10 it would coincide with the real value of things. A Cadbury Bar goes for about $1.60 now. Wouldn't it be more efficient if it were 16˘? We can go back to the days when a gumball cost a penny.
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 Posted 07/20/2010  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list
I've thought about devaluing the currency before, but what sort of effect would that have on the economy? Further, would my salary and my savings be devalued by the same amount?
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 Posted 07/20/2010  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neil to your friends list
Your savings would be, not sure how salary works, but I would think it would go down proportionately.
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 Posted 07/21/2010  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list

Quote:

Value in 1921 compared to today -- 25 cents?,it's, in blunt terms, insignificant.


Oooh yes. Based on historical interest rates since 1930 - 4 year term CD, a quarter invested in 1930 would be worth about $22.00 today. Of course, that amount doesn't account for Canadian Income Tax on interest...

Going backward, your quarter today was worth 0.3 cents in 1930.


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 Posted 07/25/2010  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add guppie1160 to your friends list
I will grant it to all who look at the penny from a logical and financial angle it seems to serve no use but from a collectors point of view it is as interesting as any coin with many varieties that can keep you looking for a long time


long live the humble penny
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 Posted 07/25/2010  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list

I am sentimentally attached to the penny. I sold pretty much all my older silver coins... but can't part with my copper. Don't know why.
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 Posted 07/25/2010  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list
I just found 2 1922s, a 1924, and a 1925 in a "junk" lot!! Viva le Canadian cent!! (Wait, is that French?).
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 Posted 07/25/2010  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list
The cent is my favourite coin to collect.
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 Posted 07/31/2010  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list

Quote:

Viva le Canadian cent! (Wait, is that French?).


Nope. "Vive le sou Canadien" is.





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 Posted 08/01/2010  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I appreciate that modern US penny collectors will miss out on a lot of fun. But that does not seem to worry Brit collectors who have lost their bronze half penny, and Oz collectors, who have lost their 1c and 2c bronze currency altogether.

I think the one cent should go, but if done in an ideal manner, will require some complex legislation, as I understand the American taxing system from an Australian point of view. That is why some of my remarks may be wrong.

A I understand it, currently a states tax is charged over the counter, which can vary from state to state on the retail price, and so results in an odd remainder price to pay. As a result most American homes have necessarily, and not necessarily willingly, hoarded large sums of coins, which will have to be eventually returned to the bank.

When I visited a family San Diego about a year ago, I was able to build a complete set of States Quarters in one go. I must admit, I had a lot of fun doing so!

Perhaps the over the counter price should have states tax already included rounded up or down to the nearest 5 or 10 cents. For small items perhaps a multiple of items could be packaged together, such as soap. The business could still then still remit the lawfully due amount of tax to the state concerned.

That way, at least the Mint will not have to mint billions of one cent pieces that are used only once or twice, and the whole population would not have to go to the chore of returning little used pennies to the bank on a regular basis.
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