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The 1913-S Buffalo has the same toning it did when it was auctioned by Heritage three years ago http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...60838&src=prHowever, I strongly suspect the seller is using axial lighting when imaging the coins which really makes the toning "pop". There is nothing wrong with this, certainly nothing like Photoshopping the coin, but I personally will offer normal photos along with axial lighting photos when I am selling a toned coin. |
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One from Heritage looks fine.That is natural toning.If the toned coins are rarer than normal-why one guy selling them all the time?That fishy to me or maybe I'm wrong.Personally-RED flag.
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Given that his coins passed in hand scrutiny by NGC I feel they are NT, although the toning may not be as strong in hand as Biokemist stated. By the way, the Buffalo in the Heritage link is the same one you posted.
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Given that his coins passed in hand scrutiny by NGC I feel they are NT, Irrelevant. Toning the coin in the slab is a known process. I don't trust this guy's offerings at all - even though many look NT, many more are wildly off the mark. Gotta admit, though, I_do_like that double-struck Proof Set.  |
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If the toned coins are rarer than normal-why one guy selling them all the time? Did you notice the ebay user name? Greattoning, that says it all, the guy specializes in selling toned coins with the vast majority of them slabbed by PCGS or NGC. More than likely, he purchases toned coins and flips them as evidenced by the 1913-S Buffalo. Guys like this do not give me any red flags at all and there are several other Ebayers that are solid sources of NT slabbed coins. On the other hand, you have sellers like this clown that sell nothing but AT raw altered damaged coins  Unfortunately, it seems like there are more of this type on ebay than guys like greattoning. |
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If it is the same,this means that guy is plaing with photo editor to enchance colours.
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Heat toned? Blasted with a blow-torch?
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If it is the same,this means that guy is playing with photo editor to enhance colours.
Nope, not necessarily. Read my earlier post where I mentioned axial lighting. It involves indirect reflected light and works wonders on toned and proof coins. There is more than likely some post-photo processing going on but not as bad as some sellers. The Buffalo has strong target toning and I have never seen target toning reproduced in a convincing way with AT. That type of toning comes from long-term album storage, the old Wayte Raymond albums are prized for their ability to target tone coins. Edited by biokemist6
07/09/2010 12:56 pm
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Heat toned? Blasted with a blow-torch? Nope. Don't forget, slabs aren't airtight; all you have to do is expose them to the proper chemical atmosphere to get the process started. It occurs to me that my words might be considered a fairly harsh dismissal of this seller, so I should clarify: I don't have any evidence one way or the other that this guy is involved with the toning on his coins. Much of his stuff is quite believable, and I understand exactly how his shots accentuate the toning on the coins. None of that's in question. He's offering nothing at this moment which causes my spidey-sense to tingle. He has, in the past. That is the basis for my caution. |
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It occurs to me that my words might be considered a fairly harsh dismissal of this seller LOL, I guess I could be viewed the opposite way but do not take my words as tacit approval, I have never had dealings with this seller and I am just an impartial observer opining on the matter  |
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biokemist6 Thanks for article.Very interesting  I just believe this seller found out the way to tone coins in slabs.Some of the product are better then the others.Probably connected with air tightness of the slab.More gaps=deeper colour toning.I prefer nice light brown patina though. Edited by valdiman
07/09/2010 2:03 pm
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The Indian rupee coin looks like it was in a coin frame at some time, it looks consistent with silver coins that have been exposed to the sulfur in the cardboard backing, and they usually tone purple back. As for the seller, I don't know where he comes up with all of those target toned coins, they are all unusual, and toning is one of those criteria where beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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I just wonder why the Obv toning is so different from the Rev toning. Also the Obv coloration from center to rim. looks more like the AT I've seen before.
But... it does look good!
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I always go by gut feeling. In this case it looks like NT to me, but I'm no pro.
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