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Mastermind XII - With Tutorial!

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 Posted 07/25/2010  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list
what is that?
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 Posted 07/25/2010  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list

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Mastermind-XII---With-Tutorial!

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 Posted 07/25/2010  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list
Oh sweet, that is a good problem:)
Thanks for the game but even more thanks for helping me to understand how to play the game. It was an excellent tuorial and now I can play in the harder games with other people.
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 Posted 07/25/2010  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
acodym, don't forget to PM me and I'll get a Franklin out to you anyway!

Good job unnkown95! Does the game make a little more sense now?
Don't forget to PM me with your address Mastermind unnkown95!
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 Posted 07/25/2010  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list
Nice tutorial- my brain no longer hurts from looking at a Mastermind game being played, but not sure I get it well enough to participate in the "big" games. I think I'll look it over again....

Thanks!
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 Posted 07/25/2010  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Fire off any questions - I'll be happy to help. It is just a logic puzzle.
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 Posted 07/25/2010  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list
Thanks Scooby. I didn't have the time to read all of your posts, just skimmed over most of it. I'll read all of it a bit later, and ask you if I have any questions. Thanks again!
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 Posted 07/26/2010  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deadmunny to your friends list
I'm trying to understand the "table helper" of this game.
In guess number two, why guess "red orange xxx yyy", if you have already eliminated their positions in the table? Perhaps I am missing something.
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 Posted 07/26/2010  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deadmunny to your friends list

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Red Orange Blue Green *Red or Orange is one of our colors
Red Orange Pink Indigo *and Blue, Green, Pink and Indigo are none of our colors


Have I figured out the answer to my own question? The red/orange guess and position was retained (even though the positions were definitely wrong) to mine information from two new colors, pink and indigo?
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 Posted 07/26/2010  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
A lot of times, especially early in the game, when splitting a guess like that, it will help you isolate the clue to one side.

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 Posted 07/26/2010  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
On the bigger games, and again, early in the game, let's say the first guess is A B C D E F G.
You will often see a next guess of B C D E F G H.

If the first guess gives you a clue of 1/0 and the second clue gives you a guess of 2/0, you have eliminated A in the answer while confirming H.

If you were to get another 1/0, then you have 1 of 2 scenarios:
A) you have isolated the 1/0 to B C D E F or G (which eliminates A and H), OR
B) you have confirmed that A and H are in the answer.
which obviously you will need another guess to figure out, but it gives you something to key on early in the game.
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07/26/2010 12:39 am
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 Posted 07/26/2010  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deadmunny to your friends list
I'm not sure you understand my question or I did not understand your reply.

If red is crossed out in position 1 and orange is crossed out in position 2 after the player's first guess (see your starter example), would a second guess (see your starter example) of "orange red pink indigo" have possibly yielded more info?
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 Posted 07/26/2010  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Yes and no - LOL! I hope that helps!

I say that because, if you get a clue of 1/1, it does give you information, but it muddies the waters, so to speak. Is the 1/1 because you switched Red and Orange? Or is the 1/1 because of Pink or Indigo?

If you leave Red and Orange alone and get a 1/1, it's definitely Pink or Indigo! There is no right or wrong.
You usually only see that type of move early in a game trying to isolate clues.

Other players and strategies may want to do it that way, or any numerous ways. Again, it's just the process of elimination, and if you can find an edge, you'll be right there in the end!
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07/26/2010 12:58 am
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 Posted 07/26/2010  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deadmunny to your friends list
That's the answer I was hoping for ... and it helped.
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Dang, now I got more competition. This was good Scoob. WOLF
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