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Restoring Buffalo's With White Vinegar

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 Posted 08/05/2010  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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the muriatic acid is formulated for pools pH. its not %100

12M HCl(37%) is the highest practical concentration you will find, anything at the 40% level would be fuming HCl- truly nasty stuff. I would dilute it down to 5% and use that as your low starting point and incrementally move up from there based upon how comfortable you are with the speed of the etching. Anything over 20% would probably work too quickly and too harshly.

Remember- always add acid to water, never add water to acid!
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 Posted 08/05/2010  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
If you find a store specializing in canning supplies you can buy double strength vinegar. Safe to use but it works faster. That is all I use and I buy extra whenever I find it.
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 Posted 08/05/2010  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Why would anyone even think about using that stuff, its dangerous.


It's basically called Monkey See, Monky Do. People seldom realize how many thousands or more people read things on the internet. Many are young and have little ideas of what is good and or bad. Many are not to well educated and when they see something on the internet, they think all is OK. The usage of Muriatic Acid, Acetone, Lighter fluids, or many other products mentioned on the internet become something that someone will try without proper supervision and possibly loose their vision. Only seldom are the many safety precautions repeated.
This is why every time I see the mention of such items I recommend every one should first read as much as they can here or someplace on that subject. Using the Search tab is a start.
Why would anyone even think of using that stuff. Because someone here said so and many out there will.
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 Posted 08/05/2010  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
gee whiz.


i dont even want to get into this...

the muriatic acid I used today is 14.5%

i tried some diluted parts and nothing..

i then tried a straight solution, %14.5 and still nothing.. its been 1 hr...

i will try to hhave it go a while more, but I think its a dud
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 Posted 08/06/2010  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
well I had 4 buffs sit in 14.5% muriatic acid overnight, about 30 hrs or so, and I can see a bit more detail. going to have it go a few more days and see what happens.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AndrewC to your friends list
I think we'll stick with vinegar; it's safe, it's easy, it's cheap, it's fun, and it usually works.
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 Posted 08/06/2010  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
yea, I will forgo the muriatic acid.
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 Posted 08/09/2010  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
ok,

i thought I might share some of the results from the muriatic soaking...

i left this one in over the weekend. came out 1925-D

its kinda hard to tell from the pics and the lighting. I thought it was 23, but it is 25.

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 Posted 08/10/2010  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list
I would have to say your method is faster than the vinegar. I think you should leave it in for a bit longer. It might make the date pop better. Great results!
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 Posted 08/10/2010  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list
I have a question about this. Can an expert (or even a non-expert) tell that it has been soaked in vinegar? Is it visible? Or does enough metal get eaten away to change the weight significantly?

To my naked eye, I can't tell - but I don't really know what to look for either I suppose.
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 Posted 08/10/2010  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list
I have not noticed a weight change. The acid removes smallest amount of nickel. I don't think you would see much change compared to a non treated heavily worn buff.
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 Posted 08/10/2010  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list
Yes you can tell!
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 Posted 08/10/2010  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Americanamafia to your friends list
You can tell the coin looks for lack of a better word... flat... ? The luster and age appears to go away and the coin is kinda a dull flat colored nickel.. that being said I did my first dateless and came up with a 1913!... I will be doing this again on my roll hunted buffalos
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 Posted 08/10/2010  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
The acid treated nickels also feel kind of chalky or rough in my experience.
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 Posted 08/11/2010  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
yea, I might leave them in a bit longer. I am still waiting on some nicadate I ordered.

anyone know if you can dilute nic-a-date so you can use more of it? just takes longer?
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