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I Know Nothing About Coins! Question..?

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 Posted 08/07/2006  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BeornLS to your friends list
HI Everyone,

Thanks for all the help so far, I got a pic tonight, see post above!
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 Posted 08/08/2006  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
It looks like a French gold coin, 20 francs from 1906 (?) - but it's either very well worn and badly scuffed, or it's some sort of copy. It's hard to be certain from the pic; does it look like it's made of gold?

There should be lettering around the edge: "LIBERTE EGALITE FRATERNITE". If there's no trace of the edge inscription, I'd be skeptical - but if it's there, it might well be the real thing; in that case, given it's condition, it would only be worth bullion value, but even that's nothing to sneeze at: 0.186 oz of gold is worth about US$120 at current gold prices.
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 Posted 08/08/2006  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list
Welcome to the Coin Community Family.

There will be people happy to help you identify your coin.

This is a wonderful; forum, and we hope you stay and enjoy it!
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 Posted 08/08/2006  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
I believe I can see a portion of the edge inscription,, can you weight the coin it would be a big help in authenticating it .

also a pic of the reverse ?

Its not a waste of time !! this is why we are here !!

Thanks

Rick
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 Posted 08/08/2006  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list
Thats what were here for, to help others.

It seems like Sap Nailed it!!

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 Posted 08/08/2006  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BeornLS to your friends list
Thanks for the input everyone!

To answer a few question. Yes, I believe that this is real gold, it has the "ring" when I drop it and it certainly seems heavy in regards to it's size.

It is badly worn, but I can make out inscription on the sides of it. Here is a link to some additional larger pics:

http://jalan72401.com/coin1.jpg
http://jalan72401.com/coin2.jpg
http://jalan72401.com/coin3.jpg
http://jalan72401.com/coin4.jpg

So do you guys think I should sell this for scrap gold value? Or should I try to sell it as a coin?

I will weigh the coin tonight and post what it weighs.

Thanks!

Jeff
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08/08/2006 08:40 am
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 Posted 08/08/2006  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
NO such thing as scrap gold!!! Gold is gold! Sell it as a coin as that is exactly what it is! A scrap dealer will probably try to take you to the cleaners! If nothing else, put it on ebay and let it fly!
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 Posted 08/08/2006  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list
BeornLS,I resized these for you so we could all get a better look.


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 Posted 08/08/2006  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list
Is that a chicken? On a French gold coin? That's too perfect.
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 Posted 08/08/2006  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
It's a Rooster! And a very puffed up, fluffy one I might add. tee hee
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 Posted 08/08/2006  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
Maybe it's just me, but the color doesn't look right to me. I'm not as well-versed in World gold, but were these counterfeited? I would definitely suggest weighing the coin. According to Krause, it should weigh 6.4516 g.
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 Posted 08/08/2006  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list
it looks real to me... just worn. sell it as a coin though.
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 Posted 08/08/2006  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
looks like it was cleaned with sand paper and with all the scratches if it was a counterfit you would probably see the base metal I would think. I know nothing about Gold US coins and know even less about Gold World coins so my suggestion is just a guess at best but wanted to see what others said about it anyhow, but please do not take my example as gospel because I could be so far out of the ball park that I am not even watching the game on tv
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 Posted 08/08/2006  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CiScO to your friends list
Hi BeornLS

Heck I Like ya already with your sense of humor-arg arg arg, yes coins are round and usually flat, but you would be surprised of all the shapes and those with holes in the middle--

Anyway, the coin you posted according to my trusty "Gold Coins of da World" states & I quote "Head of the Republic /Rv. Rooster (Type Marianne)(The lady pictured is Marianne). It is 20 Francs, made in 1899, 1901-1906 (and other dates)--value in EF-$75 and in UNC $110. Now I noticed a pretty good gouge bout 8 o'clock, if you look in thar it should still look like gold, if ya see silver its a fake. In any event it "appears by your pics to look good, altho "severely" cleaned in its history--It definitely IS NOT an UNC, so its value will be below a $100, for sure, even less if cleaned which to me it has been whizzed which is worse--Its value is prolly just bullion weight or perhaps a couple bucks above --Sorry mang-- Still tho IT IS gold-Heck wish I found it--I would keep it as pocket change and show off with it--hehe

O BTW, welcome to our Forum--

CiScO
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 Posted 08/08/2006  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BeornLS to your friends list
Hi All,

Thanks for all this help on the coin I found! Makes me wanna dig out my other coins I got laying around in the safe :) sounds like it could lead into a very interesting hobby.

From what I can find on this one, I'm not retiring or anything ;) but still a good find I think!

I like the Ciscos idea of just carrying it around and saying LOOK!! GOLD!!! lol...

Thanks again for everyones help :)
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