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 Posted 09/06/2010  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
EF-40. Very nice key date coin. The old cleaning on the obverse is possible but its minor impairment at worst.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattbrowning7 to your friends list
I agree with an appealing 40.

for a value? hmm...You were thinking VG-VF originally, I am not familiar with prices for this one but the price spread from your predicted grade range and XF is pretty big on Numismedia. I would say you hit a home run if you paid even VF prices for this.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list
Ive paid 140GBP plus 18% of BP.About 270$-well under Numismedia value.I was pretty sure it is VF so I didnt bid any higher.Thanks guys.Also bouth Half Cent 1809 closed 9.Will post pics later.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  02:03 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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...About 270$-well under Numismedia value...


That is a very attractive Seated Liberty quarter and $270USD sounds like a fair price.

EF40 would be my grade also. Be careful using Numismedia pricing though, regard it as "Full Retail Pricing".
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 Posted 09/07/2010  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Worth considerably more than $270 most likely, numismedia is often too low on 'scarce' dates.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  03:36 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Worth considerably more than $270 most likely, numismedia is often too low on 'scarce' dates.


The reason I let him know is Greysheet Bid in VF is $135 and $200 in EF.

PCGS Retail at XF40 is $290. Certified AU pieces can run $500.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cperry8483 to your friends list
Agreed with EF-40 and that is a marvelous looking coin. I love the dark toning, although I personally wouldn't have paid that much for it. Good find though!
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 Posted 09/07/2010  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list

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The reason I let him know is Greysheet Bid in VF is $135 and $200 in EF.

PCGS Retail at XF40 is $290. Certified AU pieces can run $500.
Greysheet and even PCGS price guide can be too low on the scarcer lesser seen coins as well. Numismedia is okay for retail on typical coins but can be considered a little high on most common dates in mid-high condition, PCGS is way high for common dates and 'common key dates' (1916-D dime). I saw a PCGS VF-30 go for $330 on ebay a week ago. As for greysheet, I had my dealer tell me that a classic head cent in XF greysheeted for only about...$700 or something? I told him that greysheet didn't always reflect the market and that I'd love to get my hands on one for that much, but it would never happen.

Generally numismedia is better IMO than PCGS, but both are hit or miss. Seems like PCGS price guide is pretty inflated in general to me.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list
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 Posted 09/07/2010  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list
Thanks for opinions guysI don't think I overpaid.Price is always agreement between buyer and seller.I browsed auction archives trying to find similar grade but I end up with nothing.About catalogue value-I always consider their prices as guideline not as a rock solid value.I could give a lot of different examples of underestimated and overestimated coins.I'm about to start new thread about 1809 half cent-any opinions welcome and appreciated.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
I think $270 is a pretty good deal for you.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list
This is one nice looking coin. I would agree with XF.
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 Posted 09/07/2010  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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About catalogue value-I always consider their prices as guideline not as a rock solid value


That's a good idea. $270 was a good price. I just wanted to let you know about Greysheet prices which can be low on some pieces as Shadow noted.

Auction archives are a great resource. I joined PCGS CoinFacts and it has every U.S. coin and a "Public Auction Price History". It's a summary of recent auction prices from all the major auction houses and is really nice to review.

Best of Luck!
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 Posted 09/08/2010  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list
There is always the problem with valuation of key dates coins.Certain margin is result of market fluctuation-is normal but also unpredictable.
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 Posted 09/13/2010  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcreek1968 to your friends list
Well, once again, I'm coming in a little lower than others. Looking at the reverse and the wear in the eagles' wings, I'm going with VF-35, which still puts it in the $175-$200 price range at bid. The obverse also does not show enough detail in her clothing and around the breasts. Very nice coin
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