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Is It True When Selling Coins

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 Posted 10/09/2010  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
IMO, unless they are very rare dates or types, I'd avoid Heritage with their 15-20% fees. Just my 2C worth :P
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 Posted 10/09/2010  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list
That's interesting. Yes, heritage fees are pretty steep, but I would have thought that most dealers would hit you with at least 20% themselves. Is that not the case?

Also, Heritage does gold-only auctions with no buyers fees. I have no idea what their sellers fees are for these auctions, but presumably they don't hit the seller with the full 15% plus the usual seller fees?
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 Posted 10/09/2010  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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...I would have thought that most dealers would hit you with at least 20% themselves. Is that not the case?


Not usually at APMEX. Their website lists "Buy" prices for many gold coins. Take a look. When you say 20%, it could be up to 20% under their selling price but still good for a reliable, quick sale at a good price. Never sell any gold under spot regardless of the circumstances. Slabbed MS gold can be sold well over spot with ease.
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 Posted 10/09/2010  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list
Not to defend the dealer as I don't know who he is but I just thought I would let you know that as a Sealer of Weights and Measures and a Zoning Code enforcement officer for a local municipality I deal with the regulations surrounding the buying of coins and jewelry on a daily basis. This topic has come up at several regional meetings. Each town or municipalities sets their own regulations for how to handle the resale of these items. The municipality I work for requires that all gold, silver or precious gem purchases from the public be held by the shop owner for a minimum of 30 days and that the shop owner report all transactions to the police dept within seven days of the purchase. This allows the police time to match up purchases with stolen items in the community. Many towns throughout the country have similar ordinances ranging from 7 days to 30 days.
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 Posted 10/09/2010  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzrick to your friends list
Hopefully I address everyone in this post.

pls....I won't sell this as bullion, thank you.

Vermon... Thanks, I will keep Richard Nachbar in mind if I find myself needing to sell.

ziggy, you bring up a good point. It very well could be a law to curb the sale of stolen coins.
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 Posted 10/09/2010  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzrick to your friends list
bherring, I haven't got this picture taking thing down yet and don't know why most of these look like they do but these all have nice eye appeal.

No mints marks on any of these.

1) $20 1922 St. Gaudens MS-62

2) $20 1893 Liberty MS-61

3) $5 1898 Liberty MS-60

4)$2.5 1913 Indian AU-58

5)$10 1932 Indian
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6)$10 1893 Liberty
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7) $5 1881 Liberty
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 Posted 10/09/2010  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
dzrick you're doing a nice job! I'll provide some prices for you based on today's gold spot. These are wholesale prices (like Coin Dealer's Newsletter Greysheet Bid). You might get more if you can find a retail buyer but here's what I would expect to get:

1) $20 1922 St. Gaudens NGC MS62: $1500
2) $20 1893 Liberty NGC MS61: $1525
3) $5 1898 Liberty NGC MS60: $425
4) $2.5 1913 Indian NGC AU58: $325
5) $10 1932 Indian raw EF w/copper spots: $725
6) $10 1893 Liberty raw AU: $725
7) $5 1881 Liberty raw EF/AU: $400

It's no knock on these coins to call them bullion. Many people refer to common date, classic U.S. gold pieces as "generic" or "bullion". Your $5 1898 Liberty NGC MS60 could be worth more than $425 but being in an MS60 slab holds it back.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add craig piette to your friends list
Gold is beautiful !! Follow your gut and post the questions you have right here ... great experience abounds.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzrick to your friends list
bherring,

Why is it that the $5 1898 Liberty, being in a NGC slab might be holding it back?

I should probably start some "Grade my coins" threads along with some "How much is this worth" threads to get more exposure.

You'll get a good laugh once I show you my no cost photography setup too.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list
Some collectors try to stay away from the lowest MS grades (60, 61, etc.) due to the fact that a low MS coin is often very baggy with a lot of hits and so a lot of people would rather have a nice 58 with minimal hits and marks with only a small bit of wear holding it back.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
What wheatguy said plus that coin could be a 62 if re-submitted today and that would add about $100 to it's value in most selling venues.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Posted Yesterday 6:57 pm
Thanks for all the feedback guys.

I'm not in any big hurry to sell my stuff, I was looking to buy some more land at the time and figured selling some coins allow that.



As long as your not in any hurry to sell, don't even bother now checking into all that. Just take your time, purchase a few books on Coins such as the Red Book by Whitman Publishing. Also, you may want to check out the availability of other books they sell on the Whitman web site to get a better idea of what you have. And too might be the start of collecting coins yourself. Look arouhd for some of the web sites that list prices such as the Numismedia or PCGS web sites. Those are usually overdone but gives you an idea. Also, as I mentioned before, try to find some coin shows in your area and go there for educational purposes.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzrick to your friends list
While I said I'm in no hurry to sell, I should have said I'm not desperate to sell. If I like the numbers I'm not against selling, I've had this stuff for about 25 years, I'm getting ready to retire and have things I'd like to do with the money.

Wouldn't the cost of having that 1898 regraded just about wipe out any increased value it might have?
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 Posted 10/10/2010  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Wouldn't the cost of having that 1898 regraded just about wipe out any increased value it might have?


Yes, it would be if you're not already in the grading game and submitting numerous coins at one time.

If you post some better pics of the MS60 piece, we can go from there. These type of coins are what I've been buying/selling for three years now and with the price of gold going up, they have been fun and profitable to handle.
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 Posted 10/10/2010  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dzrick to your friends list
You can see a shadow on the right side of these but I will try to get better pictures tomorrow. These are the best I could do right now.
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