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Why No Full Steps Designation On Lincoln Memorial Cents

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 Posted 12/25/2010  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add x78089 to your friends list
Hmmm, I am going to have to go and check my cents. I never thought tocheck the steps on the reverse.
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 Posted 12/26/2010  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinczar to your friends list
Awesome photographs Stewart, and those steps just glisten!
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 Posted 12/29/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list
Still researching the LMC "Full Step" issue. I still maintain, after checking all my proof and MS LMCs, that this designation is a selling tool and not a variation. I believe this to be a way to say "the coin has Full Devices" which is required for high grading. As far as I can determine, PCGS and ANA have not yet responded to my emails, only dealers use this designation. PCGS nor the ANA, that I can determine at this time, identify any special grading category for this designation. I've re-read Bowers, Brine, and several other books and scoured the Internet on the subject. If anyone has a reference, I'll gladly read and incorporate into my library.

I don't mind being wrong, I don't like being wrong and not learning from the experience. I'll be happy to take direction from the experts.
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 Posted 05/09/2016  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocketchange2 to your friends list
stewart:

If your still on Coin Community (six years after your 2010 posting) , I would like to know who has possession of the 1974 Lincoln Cent with the "perfect" set of Memorial steps, as illustrated in your 2010 posted thread on FMS.
It's the only image of a Lincoln Memorial that I could find on the Internet with all 19 steps clearly detailed.
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 Posted 05/09/2016  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list
pocketchange2,

The 1974 Lincoln Cent in the photograph above was photographed by me and was mine at the time.
I gave that particular coin to a close friend quite awhile ago that has a very strong interest
in Lincoln Cents.Almost as strong as my well known interest in Eisenhower dollars :)
I still keep my eyes open for particularly well struck Lincoln Cents like the one above
in the hopes that one day the grading services will begin to recognize them in some meaningful
way such as a Full Steps Designation, or something along those lines. I have yet to run across
one as full struck as the one above. I believe and hope that one day they will be recognized for
how truly rare they are...Thank You For Asking

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 Posted 05/09/2016  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I still haven't got around to counting the steps on the Lincoln Cent. I wonder how many show up on the 1983 reverse Doubled Die? Might be twice as many
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 Posted 05/12/2016  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
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If your still on Coin Community (six years after your 2010 posting) , I would like to know who has possession of the 1974 Lincoln Cent with the "perfect" set of Memorial steps, as illustrated in your 2010 posted thread on FMS.
It's the only image of a Lincoln Memorial that I could find on the Internet with all 19 steps clearly detailed.


I'm working on (finally) imaging my memorial cents. You should have plenty of them soon. Also, I posted a close-up of my 1968-S steps already. Nonetheless, more pictures of my collection are coming.
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 Posted 05/12/2016  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stewart to your friends list
Thad,
I cannot wait to see them, I always enjoy seeing well struck specimens,

Carl....Very Good One LOL

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 Posted 05/03/2022  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steven49 to your friends list
I entered this 1993 Lincoln under the title "1993 crack die", but as you can see, it has full steps.
I would be curious to know at what die state the steps start to blur.

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 Posted 05/03/2022  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list
Bell line on Franklin's, full torch on Roosevelt's, full steps on Jefferson nickels; who knows maybe they will start with the steps on Lincoln's. maybe 19 steps
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 Posted 05/03/2022  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list
Oh no! Not another designation for me to get hung up over. It's hard enough attempting just the full torch Roosevelt's I'm working on. Just with this designation it is really frustrating that there are so many years where it is near impossible to find a full torch. The same is the case with full step Jefferson's. Haven't got into full bell lines yet but I imagine that is the case there too.

Here are my thoughts on the subject. Speaking on Roosevelt's (since that's what I am working on and have a basic knowledge of) the market doesn't value full torch in most cases. Most years I can cherry pick them because dealers and collectors aren't looking for them. The years that are near impossible to find full torch the coins are absurdly expensive. This makes the average collector not want to attempt a full torch collection because it prices them out to even attempt. This is the exact reason I will not be attempting a full step Jefferson collection.

This, in my opinion, the only winner in making full step Lincoln's a designation would be the TPG's. Tons of money to be made in resubmission! I don't think the average collector will care to pay premiums for the designation. Not to mention the difficulty in seeing the designation which would need high magnification.
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