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Pillar of the Community
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Have been buying for quite awhile. Have slowed down recently and if it hits $35 I think I am going to dump a fair amount. I think 2 to 3 yr from now $30+ will be it's leveling spot, however, I expect to see some strong profit taking in the immediate future We will see another opportunity to buy between $20 and 25.
IMHO Jim
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United States
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I think we will see some more profit taking soon for sure, but I don't think we will ever see 20-25 again. There is way too much support once it hits the 28 mark. If you're in it long term like I am, keep buying and don't worry about the price. If you want short term profit, I would wait for a pull back in the 28 range. I would love for Jim to be correct, so I can back up the truck and load up.
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Well since I don't buy for the profit potential I will keep on buying for the wife's collection as long as she does not already have it.
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Canada
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I sold a really nice poured JM 100 oz bar when it was $13..d'oh! I sold another 100 ounces at $16...arrg. I remember when silver Maples were worth just a tick over the $5 face value...nobody wanted any. Now that it's $30, everybody and their dog wants to buy. It's funny that the premise of "buy low, sell high" is so well known to people, yet often they do the exact opposite.
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1cent, I know what you mean, but $30 may be low...after all, my friends were questioning why I would buy when it was so high (14-17)...
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United States
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Still getting lucky enough to buy between 13-17.5x face on 90%.
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Canada
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It's all about patience, Maineman. Barring the Hunt Bros. episode of many years ago, silver is scraping the ceiling of all time highs. I remember within the last few years silver touching $20, and then falling off a cliff. When that happened, there was no physical "available", and the silver that was available from APMEX and the like was carrying a premium in dollars, not cents. I believe this time silver could drop close to $10 from current prices without causing problems for those that want physical. I absolutely believe that we will see sub-$25 silver in the not-too-distant future. |
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I completely disagree with anyone saying we will see sub 25 dollar silver for at least the next few years, if ever. I'll also venture to say we won't see it drop below 28 in the near future, either. Silver has a lot going for it like it's asset potential as a hedge against inflation and its use in industry. Beyond that, we only need to look at JP Morgan Chase's ETF scandal and the fact that Silver's value is being manipulated by the major banks (they profit from a strong dollar, and weak silver). Oh, and China just made it legal for their citizens to own silver (even more demand). Most of the silver mined throughout history is gone (I've read estimates of upwards of 90% of it). No one recycles silver from electronics (at least not yet). We could very well see a silver/gold backed world currency at some point. Gold is widely believed to hit $10,000.00 an ounce at some point, and if silver follows its historical relation of around 20/1 than what I say next won't be a shocker. I'm in the camp of $100.00 an ounce silver within 4 years. It could be sooner, however. We don't have the Hunt brothers anymore, but we have worse (HSBC/JPMC). Silver hit $48.70 in 1980. If we factor in inflation that is $129.32 in todays dollars. So you can see $100 an ounce is not a big stretch of the imagination. We'll see how this JPMC and HSBC manipulation of the ETFs plays out. If that blows up in their faces, we could see a parabolic rise in silver almost overnight. We'll see sell-offs at psychological limits such as $30, $35, $40 and so on but I personally won't stop buying until I see our country get its economic act together (and the same goes for all the other countries with fiat based money systems). And by that time we'll all be rich!   Edited by mitchhailey
12/31/2010 05:22 am
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Canada
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What's a good avenue to get a decent price selling off some circulated 80% these days, say around the Toronto area? Spot works out to around 18.5x face in CAD at the moment.
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Canada
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psi .... Take what you want to offload to either the CAND show in Hamilton at the end of Jan or to Torex at the end of Feb. Both will have around 40-50 dealers and there are always 5-6 who openly buy .800 or higher. I've gotten 95% of scrap before to dealers that I know. Go to one of those coin shows and shop around for the one who gives you the best deal.
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United States
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Mitch has some valid points, but I don't see silver at $130 US/oz.
Industrial applications and photography account for more than 50% of worldwide silver demand. Jewelry, silverware, coins and investments make up the other chunk. Since 2000, worldwide silver demand hasn't increased at all. And without the investors, demand would have actually fallen by 10-15% since 2006. Looking at the fundamentals, there isn't any obvious reason why demand should increase in the foreseeable future. If anything, demand for photography should continue its steady decline until everyone owns a digital camera. Industrial and automotive demands will likely continue their downward trend, unless worldwide economies pick up sometime next year or in 2012. In the meantime, industries are exploring other, cheaper alternatives to silver.
Demand for jewelry, silverware and coins can possibly offset the losses, but as silver price increases, so does production cost... This should ultimately backfire and cause a slowdown in consumers demand, especially during these tough economic times. Such overly marked up items aren't appealing to investors anyway, so I just can't see any reason why demand would ever increase significantly in those segments.
Unlike silver, gold demand is driven almost exclusively by investors and for making jewelry. So as long as gold price continues to increase we can expect silver to follow the same path. But in the event of a gold meltdown, silver will inevitably follow. So the real question is: has gold reached a plateau? I doubt that silver investors have been dragged into this hoarding frenzy since 2006 solely based on the notion that silver rarity has increased. Maybe it has, but there is probably enough scrap silver laying around to fuel the demand even if mine production stopped for a decade.
So we are left with a couple wild-cards: the investor who is largely influenced by the price of gold (and its historical price ratio with silver), and the manipulators (HSBC, JPMC ?). But again as one said: "Prediction is very hard, especially about the future" - Yogi Berra
$130/oz? I don't think so. But I am keeping a few onces, just in case...
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United States
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I was going to write a lengthy, point-driven response to you, Canadian Coins, but I'll follow the KISS principal. ;)
I'm sticking with $100 silver.
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Unlike silver, gold demand is driven almost exclusively by investors and for making jewelry. True, but gold is much harder to mine and refine, thus contributing to its higher (relative) price. |
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True, but gold is much harder to mine and refine, thus contributing to its higher (relative) price Something that silver investors like to point out is that large quantities of gold are hoarded in central banks and other venues. Silver, being more industrial in nature, is more likely to be affected by a supply shortage, and thus has the possibility for more volatility (which it has already shown). The same holds true for platinum and palladium. The supply of palladium is so tight that massive disruption to the price can and will happen. I sold 10 ounces when it went over $600/oz., and it was one of the worst decisions I've made in a while. Again, kicking myself. It was $180 a few short years ago, I suspect it'll break $1000 in the next year. |
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silve5r will be $ 45 before year end........or I eat crow....
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