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Removing The D From A 1922 Penny

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 Posted 01/21/2011  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
Well, for those who are wondering what a strange question this was, please be relieved that I have no intention of doing this myself. I did not ask how to do it. I asked, within an historical context, how it would have been done.

It's simply something I've wondered about. And I'm surprised that this is not regarded as a common question. But know that no evil abounds here.

As far as the electric erasers go, how in the world would they be able to "erase" metal?
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 Posted 01/21/2011  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add magicalmke to your friends list
It would work like a very soft grinding/polishing tool. As a silversmith very soft sandpaper (1200-2000 and even finer) is often used to polish and remove tiny details. It's amazing that such a soft material can be effective with metal but with patience it can do a fabulous job.
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 Posted 01/21/2011  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I am guessing it would be just like a coin would lose its detail by circulation. Just the friction of it being rubbed against anything will make the details of the coin fade away and if you concentrate that friction on one particular area and the friction was on that area long enough that area would soon lose its detail and be even with the surface below, if you did it longer than that area would be sunken in below the surface
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 Posted 01/21/2011  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
So I guess the key would be to be very diligent about when to stop erasing. Still seems to me that it would be easy to detect any unusual abrasion in the mintmark area. Especially since I believe that the pressure created by the mint mark would extend below the surface of the coin; that is, you'd still be able to detect a faint D even with the surface flush.
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 Posted 01/21/2011  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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As far as the electric erasers go, how in the world would they be able to "erase" metal?


This is sort of difficult to explain without actually showing someone. For one thing those electrical ereasers rotated a tubular type of erasing material at a rather fast rotation. The erasers came in all varieties of courseness. Some of the Engineering drawings that were supposed to permanent, never happens though, were done in INK. This means to remove the ink, you needed a courser material for an eraser.
Way back when in Engineering offices there was no such thing as Air Conditioning too. One nice trick was to add a propeller onto those tubular erasers and let them just run. In other words a made believe fan. Real fans were normally not allowed due to possible blowing expensive documents off a table. Also, back then windows opened and you would be amazed at how many times drawings flew out.
Electric erasers were used to do all sorts of things and removing stuff on coins was just one.
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 Posted 01/21/2011  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gasman96 to your friends list
just Carl you speak of way back when, i,m not sure this is the place to add this comment but way back when we used to soak coins in olive oil to clean them up,preserve them,etc.i opened a Ball canning bottle with preserved Lincolns,bottle dated 1949,washed off the olive oil,dried them off and the coins looked clean and good.maybe somebody might find this helpful.

as a teen I use to put pennies in a vice and they would come out stretched,bent or dented or we drilled holes in them just fun to do gasman96
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 Posted 01/21/2011  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
we used to put Lincoln Cents on the train tracks to get them elongated all the time when I was a kid. The train tracks was just across one street so we would walk over there all the time and have to walk the tracks looking for our coins we had placed on the tracks before the train came by
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 Posted 01/22/2011  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Willfully altering coins to make them look like something else that is more valuable is against Federal law (USC Title 18, P.I, Ch. 17 Sec. 331) regardless of who is doing it or for what purpose. It is covered by the same general chapter and section of law that covers washing the ink off a $5 to reprint a $20 design on the linen and spending it as $20. It is a Federal crime that carries a penalty of a fine to be determined by the judge in the case and/or up to 5 years imprisonment.
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 Posted 01/22/2011  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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we used to put Lincoln Cents on the train tracks to get them elongated all the time when I was a kid. The train tracks was just across one street so we would walk over there all the time and have to walk the tracks looking for our coins we had placed on the tracks before the train came by


There was a post here somewhere about all the ways people mangled, distroyed, ruined coins. Think I put in about 10 things we used to do to them. YES, RR tracks were something that just had to be done by kids everywhere.

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Willfully altering coins to make them look like something else that is more valuable is against Federal law (USC Title 18, P.I, Ch. 17 Sec. 331) regardless of who is doing it or for what purpose.

AAHHHHHHhhh yes, that law. And as kids of about 6 to 12 we all read those laws carefully. Sure wonder how many times the Coin Police tried to catch kids of that age for that massive crime.
Come Coppercoins. Kids will be kids and they just don't think about stuff like laws about coins.
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 Posted 01/22/2011  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gasman96 to your friends list
coppercoins please forgive me my childhood destructive behavior,I have grown up to be a proud American,served my God and country in the Korean war,worked all my life,raised a family,paid my dues and pray Lincoln will forgive my ignorance of a law I did not know about.gasman96

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 Posted 01/22/2011  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
I thought Chuck was responding to the original post, not the railroad track games. But, I've been plenty wrong before.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list


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Willfully altering coins to make them look like something else that is more valuable

key words "more valuable"
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 Posted 01/23/2011  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bluemule31 to your friends list
The people who commit these heinous crimes should get put into a special part of the prison with those reprobates that rip tags off of mattresses and put gasoline in unapproved containers
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 Posted 01/23/2011  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
The law is the law. I didn't write any of it. K?

I was responding to the people who alter coins to attempt to make them look more valuable. I was responding to the people who "don't agree" with doing that - DUHH...it's a Federal crime!!

Anyone who thinks I was talking about kids and railroad tracks obviously have no clue who I am.
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 Posted 01/23/2011  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list
with coppercoins

As far as penalties for people who:


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............put gasoline in unapproved containers


I have a feeling the penalty for this is death by fire. Oh and, your family can't sue anyone because you broke a published law.

Have you ever felt a plastic bottle that used to hold windshield wiper fluid or just a plain clear one from the store, they having static that could ignite the gas.

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