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Pillar of the Community
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To be honest, I thought I could see brush strokes on the toning like the coins had been painted with a paintbrush.
I'm not sure how experienced you are at differentiating AT vs. NT but just out of curiosity are you sure those nickels were artificially toned? Blue proof nickels are fairly common and they may just have been a collection of nickels that were toned that way.
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After asking the dealer several questions about them, he told me that he was selling them for someone else and agreed that they must have been treated. I know the blue you are talking about, and this was not it! :D
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Coppertop......are you using gas or electric? Would there be a difference in toning between the two?
From your pics, the coin now look almost like a copper/bronze coin instead of silver
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onejinx , I usd a electric oven. The 100 yen coin is only 60% silver, so the other parts prob have alot of copper. The yen looked half way through good but I wanted to see how it would look with more heating  , It did get to copper looking IMO i'll strip it in cleaner and try something else with it when I have time.. I should have stopped half way ( top picture ), the coin had a neat green jade center with redish yellow outsides along the rim and looked like a flower blooming  I AT'ed a 90% franklin that looked really neat with rainbow colors through out but sold it awhile ago. Now I know 90% tone nicer then 60% Im not sure how gas and electric would diff in AT  but i'll have to find out one day for my self
Edited by coppertop5150 02/03/2011 11:34 pm
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Quote: I AT'ed a 90% franklin that looked really neat with rainbow colors through out but sold it awhile ago. Now I know 90% tone nicer then 60%
OK now....we want details on how you did it & pictures! On that 100 yen, did the pipe clamp leave any differently toned areas where it was touching the coin?
Edited by jimineez 02/04/2011 12:00 pm
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Quote: I just love toned coins, artificial and natural toned. It doesn't matter to me. The artificial toned coins can be so vivid and colorful and I find them to be alluring with magnificent eye appeal! Now if I were to buy a toned coin it would be naturally toned, as far as I would know and would only buy from a trusted dealer, but I really appreciate the artificial coins and would maybe consider some in the near future, that is if the price were right. I'm with you. Quote: Coinczar, it's great to see somebody that knows what they like regardless of what the consensus is..I feel the same way about cleaned coins, if I like the way they look,they go in my book.I haven't seen any AT coins I liked yet, but I keep an open mind. And you.
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Anybody ever experiment with a thing called "liver of sulfur?" If you never heard of it, look it up. I understand a dip in it, when combined with heat, will expedite the tarnish on silver. I know jewelers have this, and they use it to tarnish silver jewelry. In fact, I understand, when they add rubbing alcohol to the solution, that really revs those colors up.
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Jimineez and others: ebay #320650263923PCGS graded! This guy is a member of the "Toning Society!" It looks like he took the coin out of the PCGS holder and toned it with chemicals. Current bid is at $280, for a 1889 Morgan MS 64. PGCS didn't mention the toning on their label. Seems really unethical!
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Quote:Ebay # 320650263923PCGS graded! This guy is a member of the "Toning Society!" It looks like he took the coin out of the PCGS holder and toned it with chemicals. Current bid is at $280, for a 1889 Morgan MS 64. PGCS didn't mention the toning on their label. Seems really unethical! Pretty strong words about a 12 year ebay veteran with 100% positive feedback and not one single shred of evidence. Hope you know what you're saying.
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I also like the way you twisted his words to suit your rant. He is not a member of the "Toning Society" as you said. He is a member of the "Toned Coin Collector's Society" .... big difference.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ever heard the term "Album Toned"?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I remember seeing these super toned coins on the covers of some coin magazines as early as back in the 1980's. Maybe some were natural but it has got me thinking. Maybe this has been going on a long time and the secret is out now because of the internet showing us as many monster toned coins we want to look at just by modifying our search words. Back before the internet, I wonder just how many people wouldn't have found some very well done artificial toned coins worth paying more for if we didn't know it was done intentionally? I'm not talking about those atrocious Morgans like we see on page 1 of this topic. ( I have seen prettier toning on the ground at a gas pump on any rainy day that looked better than that. ) Some tho, are rather attractive.
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United States
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I think artificially toned coins are great looking and I will by the all day at face value. I personally think it ruins any value a coin could potentially have otherwise
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: PGCS didn't mention the toning on their label. I don't think PCGS is accustomed to commenting on the tarnish if it passes their standards, they only comment on the flunkies.
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