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I only wish the US was making a similar effort. I agree with such sentiment. However, there are a number of those who believe that such information should be kept secret because it "helps" the counterfeiters to become better. In the February 8 issue of Numismatic News, there is a Viewpoint rebuttal to F. Michael Fazzari's September 7, 2010 Viewpoint regarding Counterfeit Detection. The rebuttal's overall tone and world-view are summarized in one sentence in the last paragraph: Quote:Had the numismatic community always treated information regarding Counterfeit Detection with a certain level of security, the problem we now face with regard to counterfeiting would likely be to a much lesser degree. I personally applaud the RCM for making this information available to the general public. The more knowledge we have on counterfeits, the better equipped we are to fight the counterfeiters. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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<sarcasm>Don't tell anyone how to detect counterfeits and the problem will go away.</sarcasm>
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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there are a number of those who believe that such information should be kept secret because it "helps" the counterfeiters to become better. To me, that's a valid argument for present-day currency, where the Treasury should have secret details to keep ahead of counterfeiters. But for valuable collector coins, the more we know, the better the collector community can protect themselves--imo. |
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Well put DVCollector. Basically it comes down to who's responsibility it is. With present-day currency the government has a vested interest in maintaining the sanctity of the currency. If gets to the point where the general citizen is worried about the validity of the currency they are holding, and is demanding to know the secrets to tell the good from the bad, the currency is already almost dead. But, for numismatics, look how much difficulty it was getting counterfeits ("replicas") off ebay. The powers-that-be were shrugging and saying caveat emptor. If that is the attitude, then we better darn well be given all the information to empower us to beware. Or, the government should be applying the same zeal to those counterfeits as they do to present-day currency. |
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Funny money dialog_gvf :O) The king is going bald and got a nose job! :P  Edited by realpenny
03/01/2011 02:35 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I think he got a chin job too.  |
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Canada
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To me, that's a valid argument for present-day currency, where the Treasury should have secret details to keep ahead of counterfeiters. But for valuable collector coins, the more we know, the better the collector community can protect themselves--imo. Yes, security through obscurity has worked so well in the past. Edited by rodime
03/01/2011 09:12 am
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Canada
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E-bay should be watching this video and get rid of these robbers on line and RCMP give them heavy fines.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would get it if it was a 1951 high relief. But common 1949-1951 dates and in circulated condition?! What the heck are the Chinese thinking?
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United States
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Thanks for the Link. On the first page: Quote:
A stamp "replica" on legal tender currency does not negate the offence, as the offence of counterfeiting would have already been completed. (Bank of Canada) I have a few of those, such as a proof 50 cents 1921 and didn't think they were a problem. I thought it was a cool way to fill a hole. Glad I live in the states because it would appear I have participated in a fraudulent activity. |
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dialog_gvf: I don't think it is the Chinese... lol. It is the Sudbury "big nickel" coin. I have never seen one but it is suppose to be the size of a loony.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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^^^ That's where I saw that obverse before!
The listings were for circulated 5c pieces. It's possible it was simply the wrong pic.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Purchased from this gentleman. Rude, uncommunicative, and sent the wrong coins.
Warning folks, steer clear.
$4 for a 46 and 47 nickel in AU is a bit steep, but he sent a 62 and a 68. They've been cast ... and they've got Ed on the back. I'd have been happy with a clever counterfeit, at least I could have said "hey, check it out, it's really a fake" and shown someone the errors. But these don't even *look* like coinage. Oh well. He claims he'll give me a refund, but he requires a tracking number to return them. Really? $15 for tracking $0.10 of fake coins. I've forwarded the information to the local police, as well as some high res pics. I wonder if they'll investigate, or just put his name in a file somewhere.
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I'm at a loss. How can anyone make money faking common 5c pieces?
If you still have them, can you post some good pics?
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