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1786 New Jersey Copper Variety Sells For $105,655.55

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 Posted 07/16/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skittles to your friends list
Good afternoon,

I have a coin that I believe looks identical to the one you sold for over $105,000. It even looks like it may be in a little better condition, although it's hard to tell from the photo. I have searched throughout the Internet trying to locate other coins that look like mine but the design of the plow was always different as well as the orientation of the horse and the width of the shield. But the photo of yours matches. My local coin dealer said he could not help me as he does not deal in Post Colonial coins. Do you have any recommendations on how I can verify it's authenticity and value?

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 Posted 07/16/2011  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hambone to your friends list
We could help you a lot more if you could post some pics:)
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 Posted 07/17/2011  05:11 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
There are many varieties of the New Jersey Plow coppers. Post a picture here and we can better research the exact variety you have...hopefully.
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 Posted 07/17/2011  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list
Skittles - post pics :)
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 Posted 07/17/2011  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
First! don't get your hopes up. Next just send it to a third party grading company
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 Posted 07/18/2011  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Third post pictures here so we can tell you if the TPG blew the attribution like they frequently do.

Also as to why it was listed on ebay, you will note in the pictures in the link in the OP that PCGS didn't attribute the coin. They just indicated that it was one of the bridle varieties which is really foolish since two of the four bridle varieties are rare, one is EXTREMELY RARE, and the last is VERY common. This one was not fully identified and I believe it was put up on ebay with no other attribution. The specialists discovered it there, it made the news and took off.
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 Posted 08/31/2011  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skittles to your friends list
Sorry I took so long, but here are a couple pics of the coin. I hope they have a good enough resolution so you can tell which coin it is.

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 Posted 08/31/2011  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list
Can you do a better close-up on the coin please. The coin would be much easier to identify.
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 Posted 08/31/2011  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skittles to your friends list
I'll try taking better pictures of it with my camera, but that won't be until later tonight. Thanks for looking though!
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 Posted 08/31/2011  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Take it out of the holder and take a closeup against a flat grey or black background. No scans.
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 Posted 08/31/2011  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
And crop away the excess part of the picture so you are just showing the coin. It can post larger that way.
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 Posted 08/31/2011  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
After looking over the pictures he provided and the Maris plates in the Notre Dame University collection I would say that it IS obv 18, but it is definitely not Rev L. Rev L has a narrow shield. So that leave Rev's J, N, and M. On rev J and N if you extend the bottom of the horizontal lines to the right it would meet the center of the bottom of the second you in UNUM. That doesn't match his coin. On rev M that extension would pass just to the left of the U. That does match his coin. So I would say he has a New Jersey 18M, It is the only common one of the Bridle varieties.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skittles to your friends list
It appears that you have already identified the coin, but here are better photos just in case.

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 Posted 09/06/2011  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
The Notre Dame plates are a great resource.
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 Posted 09/07/2011  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Thanks for the better pictures. Definitely 18M. It may be common but that is still a VERY nice NJ copper!
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