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Wow you guys are amazing! ucncllmeal you hit the mother-lode coming here!
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No matter the value,this is a beautiful coin.How did you come across this? :)sn31.
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I'm amazed at Ageka, how did you come across that site and find the image?
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I purchased this Dukat in Hungary from a coin dealer/antique dealer who had a shop in one of the shopping districts. I asked him to look at his gold pieces since I wanted something of real "WOW" value to remember my trip to that country by. After a brief negotiation I purchased it from him for $350-$360 (I don't remember exactly, this was 7 years ago). Since then I have always wondered what I bought. Now I know, although I don't understand the german in that sight I'll do my best to translate it and understand it. I also see that the dealer who sold it to me didn't know what it was, he said something about it being an old coin from the 1800s. Ageka, thank you VERY much for your help, I am AMAZED at the depth of information you were able to find for me. Thank you again.
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So, now that we know it's a 1745 "Pious" commerative Ducat...What's it worth today?
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Well done, Ageka. Guess I was wrong - and not for the first time.  Let's see, then. The coin is listed in the Krause catalogue of world coins (18th century), under the German state of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, KM#30. Composition 0.986 fine gold, which is pretty darn near pure; that's the normal standard for European gold ducats. The values given in the catalogue are: $175 in Very Good, $350 in Fine, $700 in VF and $1200 in EF. Your pics are a little blurry to tell the condition of yours, but I'd guess $1000 as a ball-park figure - and that may be conservative, given that the price of gold has gone up since the catalogue was printed (3rd Ed, 2002). Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Then from a financial stance I'd say it was a sound investment, and from a personal stance I'd say that it was a perfect investment. I purchased it as a memento of my trip to hungary and then had it loose mounted in a necklace piece so that it wouldn't be damaged but could be worn as the religious icon I thought it was then. Now I'll keep it save and admire it when I have a question of faith and otherwise just be glad to know that I have something that is rare indeed. Thank you all for your help and thank you all for your patience.
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Ageka, ok, what you did there, that was nothing short of MAGIC, I've tried several times to try and research that coin and failed each time. I'm thrilled that something like this came into my posession and I'm also thrilled that I was able to indirectly share it. Thank you for your help.
Alex
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WoW!!!! Now isn't this forum AWESOME!! Thanks for the thread ucncllmeal!  |
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Ageka, your knowledge is incredible! Well done!
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Originally posted by toast
I'm amazed at Ageka, how did you come across that site and find the image?
I understand 7 plus languages unfortunately latin is not one of them since I did modern languages and mathematics at high school So first I found out by trial and error there are really four different text inscriptions independantly on the coin ( There is one on the banner which was not mentioned ) The key was CORONAM EN DECORAM SERVATOR CONFERT ET SHEVAT but even that resulted in no hits So I did what I always do researching obscure gold coins for sale on ebay I cut the thing in pieces CORONAM EN DECORAM SERVATOR was the only input giving output on my webcrawler and the fourth hit was the coin and explanation in German http://www.metacrawler.com/info.met.../top/-/-/1/1Kingdom Sachsen-Coburg-Saalfeld Als Christian Ernst 1745 starb und Franz Josias den Saalfelder Landesteil erbte, ließ dieser zum Gedenken an seinen Bruder einen prachtvollen Dukaten prägen. Upon the death of Christian Ernst in 1745 his brother Franz Josias inherited the Saalfeld part and had the Ducat made as a memory to his brother The coin is known as the religious Dukat Backside is the eagle flying to the sun the eagle is crowned by a godly hand coming out of the sun Text CORONAM EN DECORAM SERVATOR CONFERT ET SERVAT At the bottom NON EST MORTALE QUOD OPTO The obverse is (the dead) Christian Ernst kneeling in front of the Jesus Cross with in the background the picture of what the city of Saalfeld looked like at the time and a rebuilt castle can be seen Text in a halfcircle LAS DIR AN MEINER GNADE GENUGEN Text at the edge IESU DU SOHN DAVID ERBARME DICH MEIN |
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Way to go, Ageka! This is a beautiful piece, Ucncllmeal.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary Burke
You are amazing Ageka!!
I whish somebody would tell that to my wife Only joking |
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