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New Member
 United States
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No , I did not buy them from the mint. Now Defenders of the MINTs why would some one go through the truoble of opening sets ( I have opened quite a few and you have to break the plastic on most to get in them, although the 2k silver proofs sets are very easy to pop open ) Remove the half and the dime ,replace them with clad proofs and leave the silver quarters? Great scam!! duh !! There is no incentive $$$ to replace the silver halve and dime with clad proofs and make money off of it,especially if your reselling the sets. This was a mint error or done intentionaly because of some dumb A at the mint. Why? because if 1.2+ million sets were produced and a 50k-100k happen to have clads in them instead of silver it will be years until someone actually notices and if they do who are they going to complain to?
Oh, the government has Never,does not ever lie or deceive the american people in any way shape or form. Silver/clad they won't no the difference sealed in this set?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, it just simply comes down to a manufacturing process....and that's really it...nothing more and nothing less with the Mint. It would not be some wild crazy Government conspiracy, because these Sets are not put together by Senators or the Presidents Cabinet, or Govt. officials, or Republicans, or Democrats...... they put together by Mint employees who simply have a Govt. assembly-line manufacturing job....no different than me or you, or those who work at a Post Office, or a steel plant, Toyota assembly line......whatever..... they just go to work "there" everyday.This is impossible to be some higher up 'directive' to these folks who work at the Mint, to do a mass scam upon the public like that. Yeah.....just probably not....  And so then, the "other choice"......yeah....for whatever reason, if indeed these clad coins were in these Silver Proof Sets, it was done POST MINT process, without a doubt. I have also "cracked" MANY MANY MANY MANY Sets from about 1960 to 2010. I've found that the older ones are the most difficult to crack and keep the O.G.P. intact. The "modern era" of both Proof and Silver Proof Sets are relatively easy to crack and have the O.G.P. be undamaged. Why some idget left the Silver Qtrs...  ....well that's just the ebay World, IMO. You literally have ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE "out there"....  |
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Valued Member
United States
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here's an idea... a fraudster could take advantage of the COA issue and swap out just those two coins- then when caught could point to that as a "possible" reason as to what happened. Plausible deniability, right there.
Just because a person is a fraud doesn't mean they have to go whole hog about it.
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New Member
United States
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, Alls well at the mint because they never ERROR,(Hmmmm wonder where all the error coins come from? Must be another well oiled government mint)like the majority of you believe. The COA idea was great too except I received the updated one with the set not the misprinted one. So my question was has anyone opening sets come across what I have? If not you could have ignored the post and I would have forgotten about it until it happened again if ever. But instead I got a bunch of expert comments on why it could never happen. Good luck in your collecting. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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prljr as other have said it is post mint done. Too many ppl oreder proof sets and crack them out to get them graded, put them into folders or albums. If the mint has tried to pull this type of scam, it would have been found out within weeks of there release. Someone bought a proof set, took out the coins they wanted for their collection. Evidently they don't collect State Quarter. Put in replacement coins and resold the set. |
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Rest in Peace
 United States
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When I was updating my dad's proof set collection after he passed on, I bought about two dozen different sets on ebay. When I started to open sets (very easy to do) to put some in albums I discovered that all of the silver sets I had purchased from one particular seller had all or some of the silver replaced with clad. All sets from other sellers were fine. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4000 Posts |
If you had bought these directly from the mint, you might have an argument. However, you would have lost the "proof" because you have now cracked them.
The idea that there is some kind of conspiracy at the mint is just absurd. Why can't you just accept the fact that you've been had?
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New Member
United States
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I received a Mary Todd Lincoln 2010 Proof from the mint and wouldn't you know when I opened it...it was just a chocolate coin with a golden foil wrapper...the US Mint really pulled a good one on me..
I didn't see where you said you got them from anyway...?
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Valued Member
United States
277 Posts |
Alot of people look to make a quick buck, and be honest here. How many times have you bought something in quantities more than one and only checked to see if one is real and just assume the rest are too. This person probably figured you or whoever would buy them would check the State Quarters first (since they seem to be the most collectible) see they are real and than just move on. |
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Valued Member
United States
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I for one am glad the OP decided to post this. I am now wondering if there is a way to tell the difference between Clad and Silver coins if they are still in their holders. I too have bought quite a few of these sets off ebay and am now wondering if I too possibly got the ol switcheroo. I really dont want to crack them open, so there has to be a way to tell hopefully. |
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Valued Member
United States
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BuffaloBuffoon, try the tissue paper test. it works very well, silver under tissue paper will look white, while clad coins are dark
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4000 Posts |
I don't have a problem seeing the clad through the cases.
EDIT: Well, on the Kennedy and Roosevelt. The quarters are a different story - so I guess that wasn't much help.
Edited by Scooby Due
03/20/2011 8:52 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Second hand sets have had clad coins placed into them with silver removed. Happens too often and many have fallen victim to this. It's very easy to pop open these sets and take the silver coins out.
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Valued Member
United States
185 Posts |
The mint needs to put some sort of seal over the edges of the proof set. Just like the FDA requires when you buy some medicine, or cookies, or anything else you can buy. "Do not use if seal was broken"....just my opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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While our government is not perfect, I think it's absurd to think the mint is intentionally trying to scam people. The most logical answer is almost always the correct one, and here, the most logical answer is that somebody took the silver coins out and replaced them with clad ones. When was the last time the government tried to save money?
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