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Steel War Penny- What Type Of Damage Is This?

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 Posted 06/07/2011  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
What kind of damage? Impact damage, something hit it hard on the edge.
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 Posted 06/07/2011  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fur_coin_talk to your friends list
Could this be a rim clip that happened at the mint?
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 Posted 06/07/2011  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
with the others. Look at how ...GOD WE.... was pushed up on this coin. Being struck that way is an impossibility.
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 Posted 06/07/2011  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Don't think its a clip. Look also at the width of the edge where the damage is. It looks spread because something struck it.
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 Posted 06/07/2011  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list
Definitely not a clip.

And from what I hear you can the rust off with petroleum jelly, although I've never done it myself.
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 Posted 06/07/2011  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
Here's a 1943 ANACS MS-65 Steel Cent with a small clip. You can see how different the edge looks. Scratches are on the slab, not the coin.

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 Posted 06/07/2011  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list
I find Yokozuna's type of thing in nickels all the time, small things I think are clips-or are they?
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 Posted 06/07/2011  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
It is.

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Look for the metal flow into the missing area and the Blakesley Effect across from the clip. It's hard to see in the slab, but it shows an area where the coin "bounced" in the collar during the strike leaving a wider edge on the opposite side.

If you see both, you know you have a clip.
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 Posted 06/07/2011  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The areas at the end of the clipped area are fading and not shart. The devices are weak as you would expect on a clip.
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 Posted 06/07/2011  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list
mitchhailey, you may be thinking of "Naval Jelly", which does remove rust. I would imagine a steel cent would simply re-rust if you used the stuff on it, however. I agree with amida17 - "It is what it is."
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 Posted 06/08/2011  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
More pics are not needed, this simply a damaged coin. Look at your first photo of the edge- notice that it is thicker than the rest of the coin. Look at the photo of the reverse- the rim ding is nice and shiny because it is raised up higher than the rest of the coin. Another key indicator of damage is that the rim is complete around the entire coin, there is no break like a clip would produce.



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I find Yokozuna's type of thing in nickels all the time, small things I think are clips-or are they?

If you are finding them all the time, then they are not incomplete planchets. You might find 1 out of every 10,000 or more coins searched if you are lucky but in reality it is probably more like 1 out of every 100,000 searched.
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 Posted 06/08/2011  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
This one isn't a clip. Not the rim is flattened. On a clip there is no rim. Just fading devices near the rim.
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