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 Posted 06/13/2011  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
ok so acetone and xylene won't affect the coin at all?
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 Posted 06/13/2011  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Both are well regarded as coin safe solvents. However, any conservationist must use good judgement as excessive soaking in ANY liquid (even water) may produce adverse effects. There's no replacement for experience, the more you practice and understand the various problems coins have, the better you'll be at conservation.
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 Posted 06/14/2011  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list
OK here is coin number 2 after treatment
I Think I might repeat the process on this one.
Do you think its worth while?
You can now see from the last picture why I just had to have this coin regardless of condition.

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 Posted 06/14/2011  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Wow....I have to say that was nothing short of a miracle. I really had my doubts about conserving that coin. The only other thing you might try is to put it under VC fluid and try to work the remaining stuff with a toothpick, thorn, or whatever. You might be able to get a little more of the stuff held tightly around the devices off.
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 Posted 06/14/2011  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list
Am off on a road trip tomorrow morning. Will continue the saga when I get back
New batch of VC arrived last night thanks for the bonus..
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 Posted 06/14/2011  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Have a safe trip Ricard. Thanks for sharing your results!
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 Posted 06/15/2011  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Richard's second coin before and after:

Definately one of the best customer copper conservation's I've ever seen. EXCELLENT!

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 Posted 03/12/2015  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Sorry for giving this old thread a bump.. but I'm on my way to ordering some VC and then trying to take care of some pretty mucked up coins myself....

My question is with respect to Acetone and xylene... I can't remember where I read it.. but thought that you should rinse with acetone then xylene then go back to acetone... is this true? I'm having a hard time understanding the chemical principle at place with such a technique..

Secondly once I soak my coin in VC should I let air dry then just place in a 2x2?

Finally.. I have had some coins soaking in olive oil for a wee bit of time... should I just remove rinse with distilled water, acetone and then try a soak in VC?
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 Posted 03/12/2015  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list

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Secondly once I soak my coin in VC should I let air dry then just place in a 2x2?


That's what I do.


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I have had some coins soaking in olive oil for a wee bit of time


I have tried both and find that VC works the best.
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 Posted 03/12/2015  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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My question is with respect to Acetone and xylene... I can't remember where I read it.. but thought that you should rinse with acetone then xylene then go back to acetone... is this true? I'm having a hard time understanding the chemical principle at place with such a technique..
Read this and see if it helps...

https://goccf.com/t/57008#447106
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 Posted 03/12/2015  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Great link thanks JBuck for finding that for me... another question is xylene harmful on silver coins? I'm just thinking of my '48 half dollar that needs some extra TLC
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 Posted 03/12/2015  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list
I don't recommend picking, I put little scratches on one coin doing that. Maybe I am reading this wrong. Is a dental pic just water being sprayed? Throw it is distilled water for a while first, like a week. Then soak in Verdi-care for 24 hours and leave it on and let it dry. reminds me of a blob of verdigris on this higher grade large cent that I removed and re-sold here. People soak coppers in acetone first but I don't trust it since people have said that this can cause discoloration.

This coin had PVC on it. How does it look now after soaking in acetone for a week and rinsing in distilled water?
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... another question is xylene harmful on silver coins? I'm just thinking of my '48 half dollar that needs some extra TLC
I believe it is just as safe for silver as acetone. I would let BadThad confirm.


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... soaking in acetone for a week and rinsing in distilled water?
Do not rinse in distilled water. Always rinse in fresh acetone so that there is no need to dry the coin.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rose5 to your friends list
I realize this is an old old thread, yet...I have a bag full of these old copper coins, approximately 150+, (small bag?) and many are so full of verdigris that the date is indiscernible along with other features, though the coins appear to be in decent condition, features are fairly clear, the denomination fairly clear, the edges are full of grime. Many are just displaying nice patina, but the ones in question could use a cleaning. I have read and read the recommendations and have not found any that agree 100%. I have seen other posters asking for a pinned post that has concrete information regarding this matter. I would appreciate a method that leaves most evidence of age/use intact and without being told not to clean at all, as obviously there are times a cleaning of some sort is needed. I am working on a collection for an older gentleman. He has many coins that have been kept in old bank bags for years. As in 50+ years. The coins in question are from Canada and the USA, Half Cents, full cents, etc., all before 1910. Anyway...answers appreciated! TIA
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 Posted 10/20/2015  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Well what ypu want is called verdicare. The thing is that while it's relatively cheap for sporadic use you would need a lot for that many coins and there is a cost benifit ratio to think of here. Unless you have key or semi key dates I think you might need to let them go. BadThad will probably chime in but I'm guessing he might say the same... got pics?
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