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My 1838 Large Cent; I'm Not Happy!

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 Posted 06/21/2011  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
I'm surprised that the buyer is not happy about the cleaning issue yet would bid on this coin with the obvious damage on the reverse- meaning the damage, in my mind, is a far great problem with the coin than it being cleaned. The buyer knew he was buying a problem coin as the pictures are clear on that and the buyer (I hope) factored the shipping charge into his total bid, as most buyers do.

I don't think the seller is compelled to ship in a bubble envelope nor is he/she compelled to add delivery confirmation or nice packaging, etc, though if the coin does not arrive, or got damaged in transit due to poor packaging, that's a problem. Over time the seller will eventually understand that good packaging prevents tampering and lost coins he/she has to replace in the mail.

I receive coins all the time in 44 cent envelopes, but when I do, the seller usually has the coin inside a piece of cardboard that is sealed shut and can go through the machine sorter. I never have a problem with receiving a coin in a 44 cent stamped envelope even if he charged me $4.00 for shipping, because I factor the shipping into my bid.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
The seller took a risk by dropping the coin in an envelope with a 44 cent stamp but it arrived 'safely'. I understand that you are angry as we all expect that the shipping cost will reflect the packaging of the coin. He made an additional $3 on the sale and that's a high percentage based on the selling price.

Sorry that I can't agree with your cleaning complaint. It doesn't affect the value of the coin.

Anything but positive feedback can be damaging on ebay but he certainly deserves it.

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 Posted 06/21/2011  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
Thanks for your comments.

As I already mentioned, I wish he would have stated in the description it was cleaned. The coin being cleaned isn't that big of a problem, I just wish he would have mentioned it. I knew I was getting it cheaply so I wasn't expecting an excellent coin. The photo of the reverse shows that.

My main issues with the seller was charging the high shipping fee then dropping the coin in an envelope. He could at least have wrapped it in newspaper or something. My suspicion is he was trying to make additional cash by charging the high shipping. The other issue was the lack of accurate description.

I bought this coin to fill a hole so I guess I got what I wanted.

I'll give the seller a few days to respond to my e-mail comments about the transaction, but I won't leave feedback. If I'm not happy with the transaction I don't leave feedback.

Just needed to comment here.


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 Posted 06/21/2011  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
I agree MatchBob - sometimes I've had to leave a strong message to a seller who has 'crossed the line' and very often they are apologetic and maybe something good happens. Then there are the few sellers who have crawled out of a sewer somewhere and they don't care what you say and they make a profit.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I actually bought a "NON-MACHINABLE" red ink stamp, and send most of my coins for 64C.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
He also did not mention that scimitar gash on the reverse, and as said, THAT is a lot worse than any cleaning that happened. Honestly, given the coin you bought, there isn't a lot you can complain about. Even the shipping. I have received coins in envelopes as well, although usually in cardboard.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
I don't mind paying $3 or $4 shipping but I do expect that money to be spent on shipping...coin mailer,insurance,etc. To me, the shipping alone was enough for a neutral. I would ask to return it for a refund, minus the 44 cents he spent on shipping. Only fair.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list
Sound off and feel better. You have the right.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list
Who knows... that reverse damage might have been caused by the last guy to drop it in an envelope and send it across the country unprotected!
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 Posted 06/22/2011  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
Now today the 1835 large cent arrived that I bought from a different ebay seller, and I'm very happy. It was in a small padded envelope with delivery conformation, the shipping cost was $1.99 and he spent the money on sending it to me, not keeping it for his pocket. The seller accurately described it and I responded with positive feedback and good comments. You have to take the bad with the good.

What a difference a day makes.

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P S. The 1846 large cent should be arriving soon, maybe tomorrow. Yes, I'm working on my large cent collection. I have 21 so far. Bought my first 3 months ago and have been getting them one by one so I have a ways to go.






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 Posted 06/22/2011  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I don't understand why people think a couple bucks on shipping is a BIG problem. I could understand if they were charging 10.00 or higher and placing it in an envelope but a couple bucks just makes no sense. When I bid on something I check the shipping before I bid and always figure in the shipping into the price.As long as I knew what I was paying for shipping I could care less if he paid the paper boy a nickel to drop it off at my house when he delivered my paper. He said up front what he charged for shipping and I knew what that price was when I bid. I usually sell higher graded coins on ebay in slabs and I always send priority with signature confirmation, I had one guy leave a comment about high shipping when I charged $6.50 and the actual shipping charges for $7.05 to ship it the way I did. So I actually lost money on the shipping and have a few times when USPS changes their rates but I have never had anyone praise me for the cheap shipping they got but all I keep hearing is high shipping, high shipping when they knew what they charged before they bid on the items
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 Posted 06/22/2011  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
Bryan, a couple bucks shipping is not a problem at all. $3, $4, $5 + shipping isn't a problem either if that's what it costs to ship an item.

What I have a problem with is the first shipper charging $3.35 then drops a coin in an envelope with a 44 cent stamp. For $3.35 you would think he would have made more of an effort. As I've mentioned already, I am aware of the shipping cost before bidding and take that into account of the total price. I just like to get what I pay for. I have had coins torn out of envelopes as they went through the sorting machine before by careless sellers trying to get by on the cheap.

I've sold items other than coins and charged to ship the item exactly what the postage was. I wasn't looking to make additional profit like the first seller was doing. I've seen ebay sellers charge $4.95 to ship one coin.

Since I'm not a coin dealer or sell much of anything I tend to sympathize with the buyer's viewpoint. I'm sure if this happened to anyone, that person wouldn't be pleased.

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 Posted 06/22/2011  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list
Im glad I have a great internet coin dealer and 3 local stores in the area-- so ebay is a non--issue

guess I'm lucky
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 Posted 06/24/2011  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I guess shipping charges is a sore spot for me since as I said I paid more for shipping that I charged and then they left a comment saying my shipping was to high. I would never send a coin someone bought from me in an envelope (but most of the coins I do sell are usually over $200.00 coins). I also always send with signature confirmation to protect the customer and myself, that way the postal worker can't just leave it on the front porch and anyone pick it up or any other situation you can think of where someone else gets the package instead of the buyer. I always mention the price of shipping and if they purchase more than one item and everything will fit in the same package I do not charge them one cent more than the first items shipping, and then when someone leaves a comment saying my shipping is unreasonable when it cost me 50¢ more than I charged them just really upset me, because it wasn't my price that was bad, it was USPS shipping that was so high
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 Posted 06/24/2011  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
It's possible that the seller didn't know that the coin was cleaned. That would be why he didn't describe it that way.
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