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Grading 1810 Bust Half

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 Posted 07/23/2011  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Ok, I like this coin but I can't get any of the Overton diagnostics to agree with a Die Marriage.

And that frustrates me...

Any one else get something? (Please!)
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 Posted 07/24/2011  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ACE Mike to your friends list
I am going a bit higher on this one and say AU-58. Looks like only a trace of rub.
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 Posted 07/24/2011  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list
Wear on the OBVERSE: cheek, breast, high points on hair, cap, and some of the rim denticles. REVERSE: eagles head, high points of the wing, talons, and leaves.
Over all this one nice BUSTIE
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 Posted 07/24/2011  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nwc coin to your friends list
I'd agree with high AU on this one.. I'd guess it went AU-55. The obverse looks like it might have been gently wiped at one point?
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 Posted 07/26/2011  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
PCI graded at MS-60.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
So that makes it VF, right?
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 Posted 07/26/2011  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
I hope not
I paid XF monies
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 Posted 07/26/2011  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
its not VF lol
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 Posted 07/27/2011  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I see an overall AU55 coin, with a possible AU58 in-hand. I'm surprised that PCI graded this as uncirculated. While I have found modern coins by them to be somewhat overgraded, I have found their grades on classic coins to be pretty accurate. I don't know how they could have missed the rub.

I will take a look at the Overton diagnostics in a little bit. I have to feed breakfast to my furry babies right now as it's 5 o'clock.
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 Posted 07/27/2011  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I believe this is an Obverse 1 / Reverse A which would make it an O-101. I think this is an extremely early die state, though, as not all of the die cracks are visible and the ones that are visible are very faint. Here is the O-101 die marker description. I have color coded the text to match the arrow colors in the images.

Grading-1810-Bust-Half
OBVERSE 1
Star 13 nearly touches curl. Stars are sharp and well clear of the milling. Date is 10 millimeters. Small raised dash-like marks are close to several stars. There is a tiny lump midway between the 0 in the date and star 13. There is a die crack at the base of the date. Another die crack extends from the end of the bust and connects the stars on the left. (The crack from star 5 through star 7 is too faint to see in the picture.) Two or more fine spearlike lines extend downward from the back of the cap.


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REVERSE A
50 C. is 1-3/4 millimeters and A-A is 1/2 millimeter. The arrowheads are well separated. Line 1 of stripe 1 extends in a fine line to the seventh crossbar. Some letters of LIBERTY are usually cross marked below the right wing and stripes of shield. There are three dots (one can't be seen in this picture) and a dash below the left claw. A die crack extends from the olive leaves to the tops of UNITE to the edge above the D. (The crack is too faint to see from the olive leaf to the you and from the E to the edge. Another die crack connects ES.

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 Posted 07/27/2011  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
Its looks pretty great to me. AU is a safe bet for sure
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 Posted 07/28/2011  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
Thank you Susan
For doing such a detailed Overton evaluation.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Good call Susan! I was letting the lack of die cracks point me away from O-101 (of course all the other identifiers are there...so I should have stuck with it!)

Nice job!


AU-55, a real beauty!
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 Posted 07/28/2011  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
That was a fun read...and great coin!
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 Posted 08/01/2011  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
I'm glad I could help. I don't do as much collecting anymore, but I do still collect CBH's and love to attribute them.
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