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How Long Will The Cent Exist?

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 Posted 07/25/2011  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Civilized tax authorities have been rounding to the nearest dollar for years.
You are right. My accountant does. My refund is always to the dollar.
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 Posted 07/25/2011  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everything to your friends list
Great replies out here. My extremist idea is for the federal government to hook into every retail register or credit card machine, round every transaction up to the nearest nickel and use that to get the nation out of debt. Filter copper pennies out of circulation, melt them and use it for other coinage production.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bowfin to your friends list

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getting rid of the cent makes sense on the surface. However, what would the general public make of it? They would see it as a complete devaluation of money in general. Now, granted that would not be the case, public opinion, no matter how ignorant it may be will have a powerful effect on everything. People would see the nickel as the new cent. Then they might see the dime as the new nickel, then the quarter as the new dime....It would spiral out of control and everyone would panic. The country is already in financial trouble and fear, then you abolish some well established form of money...Panic will go wild.


With all do respect, you couldn't be more wrong.

There have been several local movements to petition the government to stop the cent. There are restaurants who have been in the news who will not accept the cent. They round to the nearest nickel. They have agreeable patrons.

More people than not think it would be a good idea to stop using the cent. They don't like dealing with the coin. Most of the public throw them away for crying out loud.

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 Posted 07/26/2011  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bowfin to your friends list

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My extremist idea is for the federal government to hook into every retail register or credit card machine,...

Yeah, just what we need, more Orwellian government intrusion into our lives.


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...round every transaction up to the nearest nickel and use that to get the nation out of debt.

So you want more taxation... What about cutting waste and welfare/warfare programs..?

Even if that was a sound idea, there is no way on god's green earth you are going to pay of a $55 Trillion debt (accruing interest no less) with a few cents here and few cents there.

That is Trillion, with a "T".

That is a million millions. And there is 55 of them. Accruing $212,000,000,000 a year in interest.



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 Posted 07/26/2011  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list
As I see it all electronic transactions could still be to the .01 fraction, but just round actual cash transactions. Heck most cashiers around here have a little box of pennies already.

Last I heard it costs 2 cents to make a penny and 10 cents to make a nickel.



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 Posted 07/26/2011  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Not to mention the cost of every time you have count the coins, in and out, ship them to and fro, etc.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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They round to the nearest nickel. They have agreeable patrons.
Around here many places will round the total down for cash paying patrons. There is one place here that rounds down to the nearest dollar when paying cash. When you consider the credit card transaction fee, I am sure they are still coming out ahead.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
We'll never get rid of the cent. It's the same reason we can never replace the dollar bill with a dollar coin: People are too used to them.
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 Posted 07/28/2011  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Well, when I first started reading this thread I thought to myself => "These guys want to get rid of the penny, they're all insane!" ... but then I read-on a little further and tried to really listen to your reasoning ... and by the time I'd made it to the end of this thread, I'd totally changed my mind ... you're right darn it! => lets get rid of the penny!

... so please send all of your pennies to me, stevex6 (I will help lead this fight!)
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 Posted 07/28/2011  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list
Just remember - ALL pre-82 pennies are trading higher than FV , there's sites that track median prices but it's hovering around 1.8 cents per penny...How long ago was it that wheats were selling for 2 cents each?
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 Posted 07/28/2011  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wulffy11 to your friends list
I concur with jbuck, KopperKen and bigfredd. I just hope I can hoard a ton of copper cents before the cent, as we know it, is discontinued.
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 Posted 07/30/2011  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list
Long live the cent! Wait. I didn't mean that.
Long live the king! Wait. We don't have a king.
Oh well. I guess we can discuss this until we are blue in the face and it won't change. I personally think that the cent is not worth enough to continue but I still pick them up off the sidewalk. lol.
By the way, my personal experience is that I find more copper pennies on the sidewalk than zinc ones. Figure that one out.
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 Posted 07/30/2011  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Long live the king! Wait. We don't have a king

Sure we do:
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I find more copper pennies on the sidewalk than zinc ones. Figure that one out.
Zinc doesn't hold up as well as copper in the elements. Just normal handling totalled a lot of WWII zinc coins, including the plating on steel cents.
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 Posted 07/30/2011  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list
Don't hold your breath - if we can avoid hyperinflation, the government will still continue to produce the one cent coin. Even if we stop using them in day to day commerce, the mint will still produce them at reduced amounts like the half. No one wants to be known as "Congressman Killed-the-penny" so I don't expect it to happen anytime soon. Discontinuing the dollar bill is even less likely.
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 Posted 07/31/2011  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mewmew to your friends list
I don't know that "people throw pennies away" is a good argument for getting rid of them. Why get rid of them just because the average person is an idiot with no respect for money in general? I'm just as happy to find a penny on the ground as anything else, personally, and I take care of my money while it's in my posession. No shoving bills randomly into pockets and crumpling them up like so many of my customers do. I don't get why people are so thoughtless and disrespectful with their money.
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