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Trillion Dollar Coin!

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 Posted 07/29/2011  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list
I think they have printed a trillion this year if I'm not mistaken. What's the difference between a football field of pallets full of $100 bills and a trillion dollar coin? They would probably save millions by making the coin and drawing checks from it.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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However, there's a statutory limit to the amount of paper currency that can be in circulation at any one time.

I don't believe this is true any longer.


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A little-known statute gives the secretary of the Treasury the authority to issue platinum coins in any denomination.

Not true, the denominations are carefully specified.


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So some commentators have suggested that the Treasury create two $1 trillion coins, deposit them in its account in the Federal Reserve and write checks on the proceeds.

Possible, but they would have to write and pass legislation to authorize this new denomination. But if they did they could strike the coin "deposit" the seigniorage in the general fund. It would eventually have the same effect though as simply dumping unlimited fiat currency on the market and result in the collapse of the dollar.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
This trillion dollar coin that would be used only by the gov't reminds me of the 500,000 dollar bill that was only used between fed banks way back when. But yeah, minting trillion dollar coins just sounds way to easy, at least for me.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
you mean the 100,000?
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 Posted 07/29/2011  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
If that were to happen, kiss your cash goodbye because it'd be almost worthless.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
yeah...that one...
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 Posted 07/29/2011  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
There are otherways of getting around the laws about making federal reserve notes, for example the president can order the printint of United States Notes which are direct writs against the treasury and have nothing to due with the fed. President Lincoln created the United States Note specifically to raise revenue during the Civil War and it was used as a modest means of controlling the nations money supply before the creation of the Federal Reserve.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
It should be noted that nobody with the power to do this is actually considering doing this - it's just speculation about hypotheticals by pundits and bloggers.

But if the Fed doesn't want to create looser monetary policy by way of two trillion dollar coins, they could unwind the recent rounds of quantitative easing. They're holding a couple trillion in securities; they could sell those back to investors and pull the two trillion back out of the economy. Easy peasy.

OK, it's crazy, but it's probably better than just not paying the bills. Maybe?

So who do we put on the trillion dollar coin? I'm always a fan of going back to the Greco-Roman style - how about Narcissus?
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 Posted 07/29/2011  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list
Awesome!
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 Posted 07/29/2011  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
The other thing we could do is derecognize the People's Republic of China and instead recognize the Republic of China (Taiwan) and come up with an agreement with the ROC government to cut the amount of money we owe to the chinese in half or even less. I'm sure the taiwanese would be willing to play along for hundreds of billions of dollars that would otherwise go to the PRC.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
I don't really think I want to get another several billion people mad at us! If we did that we would have to invade them and take their stuff and tell them it's for their own good,and I don't think we can afford that right now!
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 Posted 07/29/2011  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
We dont have to invade them all we have to do is send them a letter. And their isn't very much they could do about it at this point either. It wouldnt cost us anything and save us at the very least half a trillion dollars.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Well, I don't know about you guys, but I just completed my Whitman billion dollar coin set album, so I am totally psyched to get going on my my trillion dollar coin set! ... so I've put myself on the pre-order list ...
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 Posted 07/29/2011  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list
stevex6: Yeah they need a Whitman for trillion dollar coins!

admins: Sorry for the link. I'm not particularly fond of that news outlet either, but sometimes you can't help where the cool stories show up! Thanks for inserting the quote though.

No worries
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 Posted 07/30/2011  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I have always felt the Federal reserve is the dumbest thing the US Government uses. I see no reason to go in debt to the ones making the notes when we can make them ourselves. Lincoln did it and so did Kennedy, I think Kennedy was trying to get us to stop using the Fed reserve and only printing US Notes if I remember correctly. And some attribute this as one of the factors that could have been the beginning of the end for them
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